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Title: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on April 20, 2019, 20:49:35
Here are links to a couple of videos of the layout I am planning in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL4BeEtu020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvGUCb_N7-o

The outside loop will mainly be used to run my renovated 4052 loco with three Panorama coaches with custom deails.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: VicKlicktor on April 20, 2019, 23:39:54

Nice videos!! I look forward to seeing the final result  :)
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: GrahamB on April 21, 2019, 09:04:42
Great! Looking forward to more pre-event teasers!
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: Tiermann on April 22, 2019, 18:19:58
Looks like a great layout, very nice to have two trains going at once
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: skypurr on April 25, 2019, 05:00:27
Looks good Gordon!
Could you let me know when you have a name for your display please - I should be making the posters soon.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on April 25, 2019, 06:35:15
Looks good Gordon!
Could you let me know when you have a name for your display please - I should be making the posters soon.

Will do, Elaine, asap.  I'll start thinking now.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on July 10, 2019, 08:40:47
Last week I took over the chapel floor for a couple of days to lay the track out and do tests on clearance etc.  Here are a couple of links:

https://youtu.be/LwkvJmEArLA?fbclid=IwAR13MFJGEltiTEWj6E-LY9zqESeuUmu7UnMo7HBPc-XxsXnKc0xGYODsZX0

https://youtu.be/2vK4tf2ENX4?fbclid=IwAR2zjZowZx0jNeHUSBRnFg64B
WPDbjPxy6mEJxycXFHvmbWTISIXpMeZYg

I've since abandoned the sidings go leave room for a small town.

The raised line in the background is a shuttle to the harbour and beach.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: Tiermann on July 10, 2019, 19:24:27
Nice layout. I think the folded dogbone works really well for exhibitions since it allows some variety of movement in a pretty small space.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: VicKlicktor on July 13, 2019, 22:10:39

Great! The raised line looks interesting and the whole layout is striking
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on July 14, 2019, 20:05:08
Thank you Tim and VK.   If all goes to plan, the raised line will end in a seaside pier with ice cream cafe and boats.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: Junker Jörg on July 19, 2019, 20:53:41
Hai,

a great new project is about to come! Looking forward to next steps  :). Maybe I'd try to arrange a track connection between both lines.

da entsteht etwas tolles Neues! Ich freu mich auf mehr. Vermutlich würde ich noch versuchen, beide Strecken miteinander zu verbinden.

jj:
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: GrahamB on July 20, 2019, 10:19:19
Going off topic for a moment (sorry Playmofire!)...

Hai Junker-Jorg

I do enjoy your bilingual posts as it helps me develop my understanding of German. I struggled to translate your by-line (Hier stehe ich, ich kann auch anders) and came up with "here I stand, I can also otherwise" although Google translate gave "here I am, I can do it differently". What say you?
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: Junker Jörg on July 20, 2019, 15:06:24
{AUSFLUG}
Cheers! This "quote" is a self made composition.

"Ich kann und will nicht widerrufen. Hier stehe ich, ich kann nicht anders, Gott helfe mir. Amen." is what German reformer Martin Luther is said to have said in court when ordered to revoke his 95 thesis against catholic church and its selling of indulgences. It means "I can't and won't revoke. Here I stand, I can't do other than that, may God help me. Amen."

"Ich kann auch anders." is what Germans say to announce: You're not doing right, I've been tollerating that so far but now I'll strike back: I can do it the other (by the means of "hard") way.

So I put those two dictums together and "Hier stehe ich, ich kann auch anders." was the result  8-).

Für Deutsche einfacher: Luthers "Hier stehe ich, ich kann nicht anders" vom Wormser Reichstag + "Ich kann auch anders!" = "Hier stehe ich, ich kann auch anders!".

jj:

{/AUSFLUG}
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: GrahamB on July 20, 2019, 17:03:23
Ah, Vielen Dank, mein Freund, alles klaar!

(Google Translate: "You have a shrubbery in the shape of a terrapin, next Thursday")
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on July 21, 2019, 08:21:40
Going off topic for a moment (sorry Playmofire!)...

Hai Junker-Jorg

I do enjoy your bilingual posts as it helps me develop my understanding of German. I struggled to translate your by-line (Hier stehe ich, ich kann auch anders) and came up with "here I stand, I can also otherwise" although Google translate gave "here I am, I can do it differently". What say you?

Not a problem, Graham, always glad to improve international understanding.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on July 23, 2019, 08:05:43
We started work on the layout on Sunday by painting the baseboards. There is a bit more to do now that the actual position of the track has been decided. Yesterday, Monday, was track laying day and it all went fairly smoothly. It's funny, no matter how much you plan on paper/computer and laying the track out beforehand, there is always something to change when you get to the venue! On the track laying side, smoothing out some curves on the outer, through loop, seemed a good idea as the track is within an inch or so of the edge and I don't want the 4052 leaving the track and landing on the floor.

The stations are in position and the pier/harbour, too, after a bit of redesigning. Today, it is finishing off the painting and detail laying out of buildings and vehicles etc. Opening day is Friday, so hopefully we'll get a day off to relax before then.

Here's a link to a test run of all the lines yesterday evening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxcTekpvVNw
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: Junker Jörg on July 23, 2019, 08:32:28
Respekt! Das schaut klasse aus. Die Pendelstrecke zum Kai  ist mein absoluter Favorit. Am anderen Ende der Skala steht - ganz ehrlich - die Schlepptenderlok mit den Panoramawagen. Das paßt in meinen Augen so gar nicht zusammen  :'(. Der Fußgängerübergang mit Zäunchen und auch die Bahnsteige mit Sicherheitszaun zum anderen Gleis sind klasse - wobei die Bahnsteige fast noch ein wenig länger sein könnten, oder? Das schöne, alte Bahnhofshäuschen ist auch ein echter Hingucker, sehr schön.

Wow, that's a layout! The shutteling track to the quay and back's my absolute favourite. A tender loco pulling Panorama coaches though is not to my taste, to be honest. The fenced footpath crossing and platforms with safety-fences towards the neighbour track make a really nice detail (save your platforms could be a wee bit longer, couldn't they?). And this old style station building - simply great! I'm absolutely looking forward to what's next!

jj:
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on July 23, 2019, 19:55:55
Respekt! Das schaut klasse aus. Die Pendelstrecke zum Kai  ist mein absoluter Favorit. Am anderen Ende der Skala steht - ganz ehrlich - die Schlepptenderlok mit den Panoramawagen. Das paßt in meinen Augen so gar nicht zusammen  :'(. Der Fußgängerübergang mit Zäunchen und auch die Bahnsteige mit Sicherheitszaun zum anderen Gleis sind klasse - wobei die Bahnsteige fast noch ein wenig länger sein könnten, oder? Das schöne, alte Bahnhofshäuschen ist auch ein echter Hingucker, sehr schön.

Wow, that's a layout! The shutteling track to the quay and back's my absolute favourite. A tender loco pulling Panorama coaches though is not to my taste, to be honest. The fenced footpath crossing and platforms with safety-fences towards the neighbour track make a really nice detail (save your platforms could be a wee bit longer, couldn't they?). And this old style station building - simply great! I'm absolutely looking forward to what's next!

jj:

Thank you, Stefan  The shuttle is my favourite part, too, and I now have two Playmobil shuttle units and two LGB ones, so they are a major part of my ideas for the future.

The 4052 with the Panorama coaches is meant to be a special "romance of steam" tour with modern day comfort.   I'm not too thrilled with running it with the short Playmobil coaches, but suitable LGB ones are far to expensive for me.

Yes, the fences on the platforms are a detail touch I've planned to make for some time, although the length of platforms depends on what I can buy in reasonable condition in the case of the old style low level platform.  In the meantime, the drivers are careful to stop so that all passengers can alight with as little need as possible to go through other coaches.

The old style station iis my version of the Victorian Gothic style country station, rather like the private station of local landowners.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: VicKlicktor on July 23, 2019, 20:57:39

Congrats! Your layout is coming alive and every time it looks better!!! :clap:
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: Junker Jörg on July 24, 2019, 08:25:39
I'm not too thrilled with running it with the short Playmobil coaches, but suitable LGB ones are far to expensive for me.
Why not scratchbuild long playmobil-coaches? It's fairly easy. Wie wär's mit einem Eigenbau? Geht eigentlich relativ einfach:

(1) Nimm zwei identisceh alte Waggons.
(2) Trenne den Rahmen an einer (nur an einer!) Seite auf die Länge des Wagenkastens. Schleife den Türrahmen ab und entferne die Haltegriffe, so daß die Wand glatt ist. Verfahre mit dem anderen Waggon genauso.
(3) Klebe beide Waggons zusammen.
(4) Kürze die Wagendächer.
(5) Fertig.

(1) Take two matching old coaches (same colour).
(2)  Cut frame on one side (only!!) to the length of coach "box" (how's that thing called properly?). Grind down doorframe on that side too and remove bars so the coach provides a smooth surface. Do so with 2nd coach as well.
(3) Glue both coaches togeather.
(4) Cut roofs to match boxes.
(5) This is it.
(https://abload.de/img/doppel1o7j7b.jpg)
(Sorry no better quality available).Tut mir leid, ich hab's in keiner besseren Qualität.

(4) You might want to perfect its optics by replacing single bogies by double bogies (requiring a bit of work as double bogies need to be cut at two spots not to bump into the step).
(4) Du kannst das ganze noch dadurch abrunden, daß Du die Einzeldrehgestelle durch Doppeldrehgestelle ersetzt. Dabei mußt Du an zwei Stellen etwas aussägen, damit die Drehgestelle nicht gegen die Trittstufen schlagen.
(https://abload.de/img/02vierfenster-04av5j56.jpg)

jj:
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: Tiermann on July 25, 2019, 15:01:54
Great looking layout Gordon, the activity level is really nice. Should keep kids interested for a while.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on August 02, 2019, 08:31:40
Here's a link to the finished layout in operation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8YQBme7pJU

I'll post some photos of the layout and the other displays in the Community Events section shortly. 

Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: Tiermann on August 03, 2019, 15:56:38
Looks really good Gordon! Plenty of stuff going on to keep people entertained.

Which shuttle mechanism did you use? I want one and am looking at the LGB ones on eBay but there are a bunch of different versions. Are you using simulated braking?
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: bml87 on August 03, 2019, 16:40:25
Lovely diorama! I’m looking forward to some detailed pictures! Nice combination of sone vintage sets with new sets! Thanks for sharing!

And like Tim said, it would be nice if you can share some information about the train mechanics.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on August 03, 2019, 18:07:01
Looks really good Gordon! Plenty of stuff going on to keep people entertained.

Which shuttle mechanism did you use? I want one and am looking at the LGB ones on eBay but there are a bunch of different versions. Are you using simulated braking?

I was using the simple Playmobil version, so no braking effect and the timing of the stops at either end are anyone's guess.  I did a few counts and at one end it was 3 to 4 seconds and at the other 10 or 11.  With the same unit, I have had stops of 15-17 seconds.

I have another Playmobil unit which I haven't tried yet and a couple of LGB ones with acceleration and braking, but again I haven't had chance to try them out yet.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on August 03, 2019, 18:08:01
Lovely diorama! I’m looking forward to some detailed pictures! Nice combination of sone vintage sets with new sets! Thanks for sharing!

And like Tim said, it would be nice if you can share some information about the train mechanics.

Thank you for your comment, I was aiming at combining old and new in just that way.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: VicKlicktor on August 05, 2019, 05:20:12

Cool! I bet your layout attracts all kind of visitors, interesting for adults and very funny for the small ones. The idea to use thin houses in layouts is very good to take advantage of room limitations.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: Junker Jörg on August 05, 2019, 17:36:28
Great stuff! Toll geworden!

jj:
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on August 05, 2019, 20:25:40
Cool! I bet your layout attracts all kind of visitors, interesting for adults and very funny for the small ones. The idea to use thin houses in layouts is very good to take advantage of room limitations.

Thank you for the kind comments

Building the houses that way also means there is less weight to move around and less space is taken up by them in the boxes they are moved around in.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on August 05, 2019, 20:26:13
Great stuff! Toll geworden!

jj:

Thank you.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmovictorian on October 09, 2019, 04:38:37
I have enjoyed the videos of your layout dear Gordon  :wave:

Did you take pictures of the Kirkbean diorama as I would love to see them please  :)
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on October 09, 2019, 19:40:01
Thank you for your kind words, Karim.   :wave:

I have some photos and will try and post them soon.
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: Luftgaengerin on October 14, 2019, 07:32:53
This is wonderful! Great details, such a lovely town :love:
Title: Re: Layout for 10th Kirkbean Playmobil Exhibition, 26th to 29th July, 2019
Post by: playmofire on October 14, 2019, 12:48:22
This is wonderful! Great details, such a lovely town :love:

Thank you, that's much appreciated.