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Creative => How-To => Topic started by: bonniebeth on March 02, 2011, 04:38:47
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I have just successfully dismantled one of the new design swimsuit klickys for the first time, so I thought I would show how I did it, and what they look like inside. First, here is a pic of the original, with hair removed, since I will be taking pliers to her head! :0
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy289/bonniebeth2/100_5669.jpg)
I wrapped her head in a towel in an attempt to avoid scratching it, and, holding her body in one hand, pulled her head off with the pliers. I found I had to pull slightly towards the back, rather than straight up, to get it to come off.
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy289/bonniebeth2/100_5671.jpg)
And here is the result. Unfortunately, I did scratch her face some, so I recommend extreme caution with the pliers.
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy289/bonniebeth2/100_5672.jpg)
And here is another picture of the internal structure.
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy289/bonniebeth2/100_5675.jpg)
You'll notice that the head and arm designs are exactly the same as normal klickys, so they can be easily changed out. I put a new face on mine, but I forgot to take an after pic. :-[ Anyway, hope this was helpful! :wave:
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Thank you for this ''inside'' look Bonnie!
Try a pincers next time, and make sure they are not too sharp to damage the neck, squeeze gently, keep steady and pull... (actually my deltoid is hurting from all the pulling.. :lol:)
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Bonnie, try the rubber band, I bet it will work just as good as with the regular klickies. And no danger of scratching the head.
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I've tried the rubber band many times, and never can get it to work. :-\ Maybe I'll try it again on these.
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I do the following: remove the hair, turn the head all the way to one side and then wrap a WIDE rubber band tightly around the neck, and then try to turn and at the same time pull out the head. I always cut the rubber band so that when I wind it around the klicky's neck it wraps around very tightly. When the rubber band is tightly in place, to pull out the head I also wrap a cloth around the head so that I can have a firmer grip. Sometimes it takes two rubber bands, but eventually the head comes out. When the klicky has some shoulder piece it's a bit harder, but when there isn't anything in the way it's a snap.
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Thank you for showing how these new Klicky's & Klacky's are designed, bb! :high5: Try using pieces of thick rubber hose on the ends of needle nosed pliers to prevent damage next time.
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That's a good suggestion! I was thinking of using something rubber as padding last night, but I couldn't seem to put my hands on anything in all the chaos.
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omg thanks for the tutorial! i need to try this myself :)
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I have read 100 times about the rubber band technic.... but I just don't get it. sorry. It takes strenght to dismantle the clicky, I can't understand how a rubber band just does it >:( >:( >:(
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I'll back up Gaston in this! My sentiment exactly...
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The rubber band makes it less hard to pull the head off - the initial force is applied by the rubber band trying to expand between the head and shoulders...
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So, somehow the band gets between head and torso.. but still, i cannot see that happening... :-\
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I use tools, or Hans technique only! But with this new style Klicky that bb's shown may require tools only! :o
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Yes, the Hans-on method is the only one I ever use with regular klickys, but it's no good for these new ones. :-\
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Checkout this video:
Clickty click HERE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phbKJyMyVIc&NR=1)
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I did it!! Actually, the video you linked helped some, but then i clicked on this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQlTY5cSYdI&feature=related and I did exactly what he did, and her head popped off! Thanks, Luciano!
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Told ya! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/luwerner/gif/thumbs-up.gif)
If you use a new and wide rubber band it works every time. The only difficulty is when there is some neck piece, like chain mail.
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I was totally misunderstanding how the method works. Now I get it. You want to keep tightening more rubber band around it and turning the head back and forth so that the rubber band actually slides into the crack between the head and shoulders. I have since use it on swimsuit klickys, children, and swimsuit children, and it works on all of them! Speedo guy now has a red speedo.
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ok I can't watch videso at home... I'll try the office tomorrow. :)
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I don't know... this method makes my palm ache...
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The rubber band? I got my palm bruised purple when trying the han(d)s method.
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ok I've seen it. it looks so simple. somehow it looks like murder :lol: but I'll try it. thanx for the link!
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Yeah, the han(d)s method is very gentle.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/luwerner/gif/icon_rofl.gif)
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I now have blisters on my finger and thumb from using this method several times last night! The hand that you turn the klicky's head with can get very sore.
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Wrap the head in a towel or something - you get a better grip and don't hurt your fingers.
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Thanks for the guide, Bonnie.
I usually use the pliers method (but sometimes just hold the head of the klicky in one hand and the legs in the other at shoulder height and just pull them apart) and wrap masking tape around the head below the chin first.
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Thanks for the review. How are the legs assembled? Is it possible to remove them without breaking?
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I don't think so. They seem to be attached... I'll have another look at it and get back to you on it.
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Just realized I never got back to you on this. Well, I've been looking at it. I can't figure out a way to get them off. It seems there must be a way, I just haven't figured it out yet. THe colored part that makes up the bottom of the suit is all one solid piece, and the two legs most likely snap into each other through the hole. So theoretically, you should be able to un-snap them. THe question is, will the legs snap in half before they snap apart. I'm thinking maybe if I can slide something between the swimsuit bottom and the leg, they could be pried apart. I need to get an extra that I don't mind sacrificing, in case I break it, and go to work on her.
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always difficult to experiment when you have just one of the item you want to experiment with...
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i break one playmo in one second , it's not a problem to film that but i wonder how i can post it in here !! computers ....
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sorry for bringing back this old topic everyone :-[
a DS order came in the mail today and i finally tried Bonnie's method - it worked! thank you so much for the pics, Bonnie! :D (btw i scratched my speedo dad's face more than you did on yours :P)
i tried the rubber band method on one of the kids and it works - i skipped this method with the (only) adult klicky i also got, does anyone know if it works on them too? :eh?: (don't want to put mine back together because i'm afraid of scratiching the torso in case that method isn't good)
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Yeah, the rubber band works on the swimsuiters too. Found that out after I posted this topic. :P
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ohh that's good to know! thanks Bonnie - now I'm trying to figure out how to use this torso for a custom...i shoud've ordered at least 3 of them in case i ruin 1 :wall: :wall: :wall:
btw this topic should be a Sticky - it took me ages to find it ;D
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wait... DS actually had one? .... sprints to phone :lol:
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Maybe the last one :P they're always out of it :lol:
PS: Thanks for making it a sticky, bb! 8-)
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You're welcome. You had a good point. Some of these "FAQ" how-to topics are good to have stickied.
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I have been working on toys for years. I have several tools that I have ground down the teeth on to protect soft or easily marred surfaces. You can get some cheap pliers and file back the teeth making them more flat.
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so does the rubberband work on santa clickies (bigger tummy)
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Yep, it works!
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Victorian figures cannot be dismantled.I've tried it many times,and the result was to damage the figures!
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It's because they are older, and more brittle. I have gotten some apart by using the rubber band method, but the hans-on method is rather risky with old klickys. Putting paper between the torso and the legs helps, so that the legs don't get scratched.
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It is better if you use a thick piece of a card board box to prevent indentions on the legs.
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Yeah, I use either that or paper folded over several times until it is about the thickness of thick cardboard.
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yeah, early 90's klickies give me a hard time too... just a piece of thich cardboard folded between legs and torso and either a strong or a couple of hits on the floor works... maybe also use a pincer between hits, pull the head to make the hits more efficient...
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And these days, rather than hitting them on the floor, I crush them between my two hands with steady pressure. I find that works better and doesn't break the feet. You have to cushion your hands though, so that the head and feet digging in don't hurt them.
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You have to cushion your hands though, so that the head and feet digging in don't hurt them.
I didn't know Klicky's could feel pain! I'm in big trouble! :o
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:lol: :lol: :lol: I meant so they don't hurt my hands, silly! :P
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I use both methods; rubber-band and Han(d)s-On.
With H-O, I first swap a klicky's legs for an old pair of useless legs to avoid damage/scratches on the klicky's original legs. (you can lift out legs without dismantling the whole klicky).
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The rubber band method works wonders. The H-O is just crule for some clickies :lol:
Another good method if you have strong hands is just to grab the clicky by the torso and tear the head appart. Sounds aweful but it works great ;D when the clicky doesn't have a collar or something up the neck. ;D
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You must have some really strong hands. There's no way I could dismantle one that way!
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i use a towel or a thick piece of cloth to dismantle old klicies - that and brute force >:D >:D >:D
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You must have some really strong hands. There's no way I could dismantle one that way!
It doesn't work for me either, I don't have enough force I guess.
So I've been thinking about binding a klicky's legs to the front door, and strapping the head to a car ... ;D Hopefully the head pops off and not the front door :uhoh:
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Im not Popeye guys! it's not that hard! :lol: :lol:
Anyway... only problem is your fingers get numb after the third clicky so if you have to pop up a lot of heads, you better use the rubber band. ;)
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My fingers go numb after doing three with the rubber band. :-[
Do you eat a lot of canned spinach? :lol:
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being a newbie I decided to try the rubber band technique on a swimsuit figure, I couldn't do it at all ... even after watching the you tube video I still couldn't do it?
I've dismantled many an action figure over the years including triad joints which are very tricky so I reverted to type and got the kettle on, brought it to the boil and submerged the whole body in the water for about a minute and the head pulled off quite easily.
I had to use a teaspoon to pick the figure out of the boiling water then used the dish cloth at both ends to get that grip needed.
Hoping my technique helps others and youngster's you'll need the help of mum, dad or grandparents for this,
MandyJ
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Careful with that - some might be discolored, in the very little experience I had...
(Triad as in triad 12" ? I assume we are not speaking of the same.. I got a female viking type and had a preorder (princess of mars, I think - pretty warrior woman type) that was never produced - that taught me to NEVER EVER preorder any 12". Ever.)
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Hi Tahra,
yes that's right the 12" Triads.
I always pop off the heads from similar figures like that before submerging them in hot water.
I've had so many wrist and ankle breakages I've had to remove old ball joints to insert new hands, feet or boots and hot water has always worked for me but thank you for that.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your warrior figure, that's an awful thing to have happen to you XXX
MandyJ
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Hi Tahra,
yes that's right the 12" Triads.
I always pop off the heads from similar figures like that before submerging them in hot water.
I've had so many wrist and ankle breakages I've had to remove old ball joints to insert new hands, feet or boots and hot water has always worked for me but thank you for that.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience with your warrior figure, that's an awful thing to have happen to you XXX
MandyJ
Oh, the bad experience was the wait... Fortunately, it was a honest seller and I got a refund like one year (or was it two?) after for the one they didn't release (Dejah Thoris: Princess of Mars). I never popped one of those - too expensive to have many of. Actually, I'm not sure I have any other from Triad... This is the.. (looked her up) Helga Njalsson from "Ternion Wars" (have no idea what that is). I would LOVE to get her head on a more.... normal body. ::)
The color problem I meant for playmobil - we tried (like over 10 years ago) with a pirate and his torso was discolored.. Might have been too long in...
Tried hot water for GIJoes, with moderate success...
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Thanks for the guide, Bonnie.
I usually use the pliers method (but sometimes just hold the head of the klicky in one hand and the legs in the other at shoulder height and just pull them apart) and wrap masking tape around the head below the chin first.
Yes I think one of the Gardeners where I volunteer grabbed a pair of pliers and managed to disassemble a figure but, the heads got scratched not sure whether masking tape was used that time but, what I would say is to use at least two layers of masking tape on the head and a good bit on either shoulder I think last time when I did that the heads weren't really scratched and the bodies were also fine but, if you only wrap one layer of masking tape round the head you might end up with a fiar amount of scratching hope this helps.
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I wrap the head in an old washcloth before using pliers, it provides enough protection to keep the pliers from marring the surface.
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Dumb question: Once one has dismantled Swimsuit Dad, is his torso like a regular klicky? Can I put regular pant legs together with his torso? ???
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No, they have the narrower rounder body type. There are some pant legs available from thee Native Americans last series. That's what was used on the Aladdin from the Figures series. Tahra would know if there are any others. I think she has a Masters degree in Klicky Assembly.
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The only compatible parts with "normal" klickys are the head and hair (if that counts).
Not even the freaking arms are the same. Even between speedos. No, I am NOT over this. >:( ::) :'( >:(
Male and female torsos are interchangeable.
Any more specific questions, be my guest...
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So if I want pants on that torso, the Aladdin guy with the white fringed pants is my only option? (Or are the indian pants a different colour?)
Bah. I could clean the tattoo of the Series 3 Figure to get a bare chest I guess. But I wanted the ever so slightly sculpted muscles on speedo dad. (For a reason! :lol:)
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Oh, I just found my woman from 5605 rocker trio. She has black legs and pink shoes. I could paint the pink shoes! Has anyone ever tried Sharpie? I'm just wondering as it's such a small area.
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There are several indian legs, and a couple with shoes (but I'm not sure which ones are not bare). Then there's a GAZILLION silly ones in socks. For whatever reason.
And then... the GORGEOUS booted ones from Figures 8 (rocker + gladiator)...
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Can you give me an example of those legs with socks? Can't picture what you mean!
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There's a few athletes in socks. And a lot of fairies, especially the ones who came with a horse.
(http://i.imgur.com/GXWWuhn.jpg)
But I wanted the ever so slightly sculpted muscles on speedo dad. (For a reason! :lol:)
;D Well obviously.
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Ah, thanks!
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There's a few athletes in socks. And a lot of fairies, especially the ones who came with a horse.
Most speedos are either barefoot or in their socks, I think. I have NO IDEA who thought of that.
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They need to do one in caligae (Roman sandals) so we can have proper gladiators.
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They need to do one in caligae (Roman sandals) so we can have proper gladiators.
Well, that SHOULD be a DUH. But no...
And Salamander, you won't believe this. I got all my speedo legs out. Lined them up. Took pics.
Got home, checked the pics. I forgot the indian legs ones. I can't freaking believe it. The ones you were truly interested in. :doh: :wall: I blame my advanced age.
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Oh thank you so much! I'd still love to see the rest!
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Ok, I'm REALLY OLD. Looking at the pics, I thought I had forgotten the 3rd one. There is no 3rd. I put them in two.
(http://www.playkingdoms.com/temp/playmoproc/speedolegs1.jpg)
(http://www.playkingdoms.com/temp/playmoproc/speedolegs2.jpg)
Not a full list, just looked in the pop-speedo-containers.
As you can see, not a great deal of variety. Most have either naked legs, or socks (what a STUPID STUPID idea)... There are also those odd looking large skirts.
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Wow, that's a lot! Thanks so much for going to the trouble of doing that, that really helps me out. And the good news is it confirms that my best bet is using the black ones with pink shoes and painting the shoes, and as I already own those legs, I'm good to go! Thanks again! ;D
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Thanks so much for the pictures, this is a customizers dream :)
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Well I went to do the big swimsuit dismantling, and was looking over tahra's pictures when it struck me that the legs I was going to use (black with pink shoes), are feminine compared to some of the other legs. I hadn't even really noticed the difference!
So now I'm back to finding legs again. I have the Aladdin guy, but those ones have the 'fringe' on them. Can you tell me what the first picture, bottom row, right side legs originally came from, and whether they also have the fringe? I'm going to be painting them, so I'm not worried about the colour, but I could do with some help sourcing what klickies they originated with. Thanks!
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Well I went to do the big swimsuit dismantling, and was looking over tahra's pictures when it struck me that the legs I was going to use (black with pink shoes), are feminine compared to some of the other legs. I hadn't even really noticed the difference!
Not sure about that.. The legs are all the same.
So now I'm back to finding legs again. I have the Aladdin guy, but those ones have the 'fringe' on them. Can you tell me what the first picture, bottom row, right side legs originally came from, and whether they also have the fringe? I'm going to be painting them, so I'm not worried about the colour, but I could do with some help sourcing what klickies they originated with. Thanks!
Those are all indian legs, all have the fringe...
I assume they are from the indian sets - apart from those, I THINK only that "alladin guy" had them (completely off!)..
Depending on which ones you are after, I may be able to help. I know not all were "repeats"... but not sure which ones... Anyways, feel free to let me know - no harm is checking, right?
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Not sure about that.. The legs are all the same.
I guess they look more like pants than the female ones that looked like leggings in comparison, even with the shoes. Maybe I'm just being thrown by the "wideness" of the indian legs and it's making the other ones look too slender.
Those are all indian legs, all have the fringe...
I assume they are from the indian sets - apart from those, I THINK only that "alladin guy" had them (completely off!)..
Depending on which ones you are after, I may be able to help. I know not all were "repeats"... but not sure which ones... Anyways, feel free to let me know - no harm is checking, right?
Thanks so much. If they all have fringe, they won't be quite right. Maybe I'll try putting the black legs on and see if they look ok with speedo dad's ever so slightly muscular torso.
Thanks for all the help!
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Thanks so much. If they all have fringe, they won't be quite right. Maybe I'll try putting the black legs on and see if they look ok with speedo dad's ever so slightly muscular torso.
I've been tempted to file the fringe on "Aladdin", but didn't...
If you change your mind... let me know :)
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maybe the technical diffeiculties i mentioned with the potential creation of a 1968 women's liberation commemorative set can be solved.
http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=14883.0
the burning part would still be tricky, maybe. :hmm:
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So I finally got around to the dismantling of speedo dad part of my project. (Truth be told I had my husband do it because I have proven myself inept over and over again at all klickie dismantling.)
He tried bonniebeth's method that's illustrated at the start of this thread. Pulled it apart, and the frame remained stuck inside the torso! Pulled apart rocker lady, and the same thing happened! Which wouldn't have been so bad, as the parts would've still been interchangeable, but I needed a different head on speedo dad, so he had to grasp the teeny tiny bit of frame that was sticking out of the torso and yank it and the head until the torso and head separated!
But it all worked out and I am pleased with the result! (Well, after I painted rocker lady's pink shoes, that wasn't working for me! :lol:)
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Pulled it apart, and the frame remained stuck inside the torso! Pulled apart rocker lady, and the same thing happened!
:o That NEVER happend to me... And I've popped quite a few...
(I broke a frame once, but never had it remain stuck to the head :o )
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:o That NEVER happend to me... And I've popped quite a few...
(I broke a frame once, but never had it remain stuck to the head :o )
I never encountered that either... ???
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Any luck removing the swim cap from the Olympic swimmer? Is it attached like any other hat or hair piece?
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Any luck removing the swim cap from the Olympic swimmer? Is it attached like any other hat or hair piece?
Yes, just a common "hair"...
Though I did get in lots a bunch of old style women hairs that ARE attached to the head. Have no idea how or why.
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Sorry, but I have a question about this old topic – haven't read all nine pages above me, so perhaps it has already been answered. In that case, here's another pre-emptive apology.
The question is: can one swap inlays/skeletons of swimsuit legs? There come in two types, grey for Figures heads, and white for plain ones, and I notice that they are pre-assembled to the legs (in case of Figures bags), so clearly aren't perceived as assemblable pieces by the manufacturer. If they can be exchanged, how does one remove them from their legs – force them off with pliers?
Any thoughts are very welcome. Many thanks!
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Sorry, but I have a question about this old topic – haven't read all nine pages above me, so perhaps it has already been answered. In that case, here's another pre-emptive apology.
The question is: can one swap inlays/skeletons of swimsuit legs? There come in two types, grey for Figures heads, and white for plain ones, and I notice that they are pre-assembled to the legs (in case of Figures bags), so clearly aren't perceived as assemblable pieces by the manufacturer. If they can be exchanged, how does one remove them from their legs – force them off with pliers?
Any thoughts are very welcome. Many thanks!
You can. I think I used a thin screwdriver.. But while sometimes is easy peasy, other times I just can't. Right now, I don't even remember how to do it.. But with the new figures, it would be useful to replace the ones in the final versions for normal frames... since the figure ones are useful for drafting. Of course, with how hard it is to switch them, compared to normal klickys, most of the time I just don't bother....
Only for special customs, like Saxa, Kore or Ahsoka, where when needed I also messed with the head to work as a figure head...