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Creative => How-To => Topic started by: xcom on April 29, 2023, 19:57:30

Title: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: xcom on April 29, 2023, 19:57:30
Hi everyone.

I have just purchased my first "Fi?ure" bag (Series 23) and noticed that is has a nice new internal frame/chassis, the grey one.

I decided to have a go at some customising and used an old original body, arms and legs but using the new grey Fi?ures grey chassis. When I say original I mean non Fi?ures parts.

Everything connected together fine and the legs and arms seemed to fit much better and weren't all floppy like they usually are. Maybe something to do with the new grey chassis?

I decided to try a different head and this is when I was unsure so stopped. It seemed to meet some resistance when I tried to push it into the figure. The head that came in the Fi?ure bag fits in fine and removes fine. Looking closer I noticed that the neck part from an original figure seems fatter. Maybe its just my eye sight?

Is it OK to use non Fi?ures heads in the Fi?ures grey chassis, or should only Fi?ures heads be used in the Fi?ures chassis? I didn't want to force the head in and crack the chassis.

Also while on the subject does anyone know the part number for the new grey Fi?ures chassis so I can try and order some more. If not does anyone know where I can buy some?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: Pynedor on April 29, 2023, 20:25:00
I decided to try a different head and this is when I was unsure so stopped. It seemed to meet some resistance when I tried to push it into the figure. The head that came in the Fi?ure bag fits in fine and removes fine. Looking closer I noticed that the neck part from an original figure seems fatter. Maybe its just my eye sight?

The normal heads and the heads that come with Fi?ures sets are different. Just as you noticed, the bottom parts are shaped differently; this is so that the Fi?ures heads can be easily removed.

Is it OK to use non Fi?ures heads in the Fi?ures grey chassis, or should only Fi?ures heads be used in the Fi?ures chassis? I didn't want to force the head in and crack the chassis.

That should be fine, but you won't be able to remove the head as easily as you could remove one of the Fi?ures heads.

Also while on the subject does anyone know the part number for the new grey Fi?ures chassis so I can try and order some more.

The part number for the grey "female" frame/skeleton (the one included with most of the Fi?ures figures) is 30 23 2912, and the part number for the darker grey "male" frame/skeleton (the one included with some Fi?ures figures that require a higher arched part to allow the legs to move without interference with the frame/skeleton) is 30 24 9222.
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: xcom on April 29, 2023, 20:42:25
The part number for the grey "female" frame/skeleton (the one included with most of the Fi?ures figures) is 30 23 2912, and the part number for the darker grey "male" frame/skeleton (the one included with some Fi?ures figures that require a higher arched part to allow the legs to move without interference with the frame/skeleton) is 30 24 9222.

Thanks for this. I didn't know there was two types. I will pickup a female bag this weekend and take a look. Are they easy to tell apart? The one I got was a Viking.
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: Pynedor on April 29, 2023, 21:05:47
I will pickup a female bag this weekend and take a look. Are they easy to tell apart? The one I got was a Viking.

Yes, they look noticeably different. Most of the Fi?ures figures (both boys and girls) come with the "female" version. The Viking figure you got probably came with the "female" version. The "male" version generally only comes with Fi?ures figures that require it (like those that come with legs with sandals), but the "female" version works well with almost all parts.
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: Klickteryx on April 29, 2023, 21:19:27
Fi?ure heads have a triangle on the back of them making them easy to identify. They have to be used with the grey frames for a good fit. All the other fi?ure parts are the same as regular playmobil.

The female frames are designed to go on torsos with wider hips. The hips aren't actually wider, they have narrower waists so the female frames are narrower but flare out at the bottom.
Female frames will fit inside male torsos but male frames only fit male torsos.

Eventually you'll come across different body types which are not compatible with each other, this is a standard playmobil thing. You can read about that here:

http://www.playkingdoms.com/library/anatomy/briefbodytypes.aspx

Earlier klickys (playmobil dolls) had frames that were tight so they didn't stoop and their arms would stay sticking out even holding something. Over the last few years it's not unusual to get klickys with loose arms and which wont stand up straight well.
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: Klickteryx on April 29, 2023, 21:20:58
Yes, they look noticeably different. Most of the Fi?ures figures (both boys and girls) come with the "female" version. The Viking figure you got probably came with the "female" version. The "male" version generally only comes with Fi?ures figures that require it (like those that come with legs with sandals), but the "female" version works well with almost all parts.
Never noticed that, something else to look at sometime.
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: StJohn on April 30, 2023, 02:33:57
Welcome, xcom, to customising. :wave: Everything above is correct: Pynedor and Klickteryx explained things well. Normal heads fit onto grey inlays but, as you noticed, it is a tight fit. You need force to insert the head, and equal force to remove it. I think it's still within limits: no part gets damaged if you combine the two. Some collectors actually prefer customising figures with normal heads onto grey inlays because the resulting figure is such a very tight fit.

You'll notice that darker grey ("male") inlays are essential if you work with fat figures: they leave more space for bending legs whilst accommodating bigger bellies.

In essence, everything can be combined, as long as you've got the right inlay. Things get a whole lot more difficult once you start combining with non-inlay figures (mainly those with entirely different proportions and inner parts; in this forum they are often described as "speedos" – more debased variation has appeared recently); there, essentially, only their head will fit regular klickies and Fi?ures.

Tahra has produced a very informative paper on Klicky Anatomy: http://www.playkingdoms.com/library/anatomy/briefbodytypes.aspx Elsewhere she is showing the lighter and darker grey Fi?ures inlays alongside regular ones: http://www.playkingdoms.com/library/figures/figures.aspx All very good stuff – please have a look!

Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: CrimsonCleaver on April 30, 2023, 05:06:02

The part number for the grey "female" frame/skeleton (the one included with most of the Fi?ures figures) is 30 23 2912, and the part number for the darker grey "male" frame/skeleton (the one included with some Fi?ures figures that require a higher arched part to allow the legs to move without interference with the frame/skeleton) is 30 24 9222.

Somehow I totally missed that I’d need the 30249222 for creating fat Fi?ures, thankyou for this. I’ve even read Tara’s page many times and it didn’t click in my head!
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: tahra on April 30, 2023, 16:19:59
Well... I guess I have nothing to add... ;D
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: xcom on May 07, 2023, 18:19:31
The part number for the grey "female" frame/skeleton (the one included with most of the Fi?ures figures) is 30 23 2912, and the part number for the darker grey "male" frame/skeleton (the one included with some Fi?ures figures that require a higher arched part to allow the legs to move without interference with the frame/skeleton) is 30 24 9222.

I just checked the spare parts section on the website and it just says "Unfortunately, the spare part you were looking for is no longer available." for both these numbers. Do you know of a way that I can order some?
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: xcom on May 07, 2023, 18:22:37
Normal heads fit onto grey inlays but, as you noticed, it is a tight fit. You need force to insert the head, and equal force to remove it. I think it's still within limits: no part gets damaged if you combine the two. Some collectors actually prefer customising figures with normal heads onto grey inlays because the resulting figure is such a very tight fit.

I did it today as I have picked up a few more Fi?ures sets. As you mention, the old heads do fit in with a lovely "click" and its a much tighter fit. Also the arms and legs seem to be much tighter as well with the newer grey frames. I definitely want to use these new internal frames in the future as they seem better. Thanks for all the tips.
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: GrahamB on May 08, 2023, 17:56:38
I just checked the spare parts section on the website and it just says "Unfortunately, the spare part you were looking for is no longer available." for both these numbers. Do you know of a way that I can order some?
Email Customer Services (directservice_uk@playmobil.de) and ask if the parts you want can be supplied anyway- many parts are shown as no longer available but can be ordered by asking!
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: Pynedor on May 09, 2023, 21:17:25
I just checked the spare parts section on the website and it just says "Unfortunately, the spare part you were looking for is no longer available." for both these numbers. Do you know of a way that I can order some?

Email Customer Services (directservice_uk@playmobil.de) and ask if the parts you want can be supplied anyway- many parts are shown as no longer available but can be ordered by asking!

If that doesn't work, you can often find them for sale on eBay, but the prices will likely be higher there.
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: xcom on May 22, 2023, 20:03:08
Email Customer Services (directservice_uk@playmobil.de) and ask if the parts you want can be supplied anyway- many parts are shown as no longer available but can be ordered by asking!

I've sent an email asking to the address you posted as well as "service_uk@playmobil.de" and its been over 2 weeks and I've not heard back. Do they take a while?
Title: Re: Customising klickies using original parts along with parts from Fi?ures
Post by: GrahamB on May 23, 2023, 14:09:33
Oh dear! I used directservice_uk@playmobil.de on 13/3/23 and had a reply. I had a message from service_uk@playmobil.de* on the same date, but that was them sending me a secure link for payment. Maybe they have changed their email addresses? Direct Service was the former name for Playmobil Plus, so that might be why. Let us know if you do find an address which responds, I need to request some parts myself!

*this is the email address given on the co.uk website. There is also a web form for contacting Customer Services at https://www.playmobil.co.uk/CustomerService-Contact (https://www.playmobil.co.uk/CustomerService-Contact) which might be worth a try.