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General => News => Topic started by: tahra on July 26, 2019, 09:37:03
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First saw some pics on THAT site..
Finally, on a proper forum, the usual one: link on amclicks (http://amclicks.org/foro/novedades-playmobil/3-new-licenses/msg38902/#msg38902)
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I like this theme!! the only thing they completely ruined (once again) is the buildings. Really crappy things :(
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I like this theme!! the only thing they completely ruined (once again) is the buildings. Really crappy things :(
True... I mean, they LOOK good, but we know they are just big chunks of system WHY, right?
Along with the rock formation... can you imagine if it was rockies?
I also think Josef is too thin.
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All I know is, my wallet hates when I decide to buy entire themes
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Wow!!! I really like it! All those nice klickies! Very useful for my Western dioramas! Great!
And now I'm going to have a detailed look at it!
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Along with the rock formation... can you imagine if it was rockies?
You can still order the majority of the different rockies via the DS parts service, I recently ordered a bunch for my latest diorama. So in that case, I like a this new waterfall / rock formation.
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Finally, the eagle with open wings in set 70254 (the waterfall) and some new variations of other animals too! For me, so far the best licensed theme.
But I agree about the buildings, a pity they aren't compatible with older systems. On the other hand, it must be one of the more beautiful buildings of system WHY!
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A nice looking theme, and regular Klickies it looks like. The saint Bernard is new and I like the flying eagle and the new goat colors.
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Looks really great, love the eagle. Nice brown rake too and is that a new beard?
Not sure what's happening in the scene outside Grandpa's house, looks like Heidi is taking her doll to the chopping block for an execution. She's got a nice looking shoulder cape.
The goat hut could have been better with a full roof. Why have a partial roof - either you play with the roof off or you're careful and kids have small hands - it's not like the cars and trucks have partial roofs - they just have removable roofs for access. ???
Grandpa's house looks really good from the front, also like that chimney set up in the kitchen, well designed.
As bml87 said, great additions to Western themes, I think the woman in blue might be the first reasonably period civilian woman (not a bandit or upper class type) we've seen since the original dollhouse theme.
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All I know is, my wallet hates when I decide to buy entire themes
I have to be honest, that this will be the first theme since the Roncalli Circus theme, that I will buy complete as well. I actually cannot wait for the second wave of this series.
I'm of course I'm a bit proud of our Belgian entertainment company Studio 100! Now I'm curious if they will negotiate more licenses with Playmobil (probably they first want to see the results of the Heidi sets). Check out which series they own: https://studio100.com/be/nl/tv/programmas
=> I can definitely imagine a Playmobil line of Pippi Longstocking (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippi_Longstocking). Or a Playmobil 123 line of Wickie the Viking (https://studio100.com/be/nl/algemeen/personages#wickie).
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Personally, I'm voting for Ploperdeplop!
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Press announcement of Studio 100, earlier this year:
https://www.studio100media.com/en/2019/03/27/studio-100-media-m4e-and-the-brandstatter-group-present-icon-brand-heidi-in-the-world-of-playmobil/
Sounds promising!
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Again I am very much planning to get this entire theme
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Not sure what's happening in the scene outside Grandpa's house, looks like Heidi is taking her doll to the chopping block for an execution. She's got a nice looking shoulder cape.
Aunt Dete be like: Come on girl, it's time to grow up!
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=> I can definitely imagine a Playmobil line of Pippi Longstocking (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippi_Longstocking). Or a Playmobil 123 line of Wickie the Viking (https://studio100.com/be/nl/algemeen/personages#wickie).
I'm all for Vicky (here)...
SINGING:
Hey hey Vicky, hey Vicky hey... Levanta bem a vela!!!
From the list, I want "Flin & Flo" (whatever it is, just from the pic.. ;D)
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Aunt Dete be like: Come on girl, it's time to grow up!
;D
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Thanks for the news and the link to the pics!
A very nice theme indeed, with cool klickies that can be used (or customized for use) for several other historical settings/themes!
Are klickies & parts from the licensed themes as easily to order through DS-service as the ones from the "normal/regular" themes?
The flying eagle with widespread wings is one of the must-haves...
I had really hoped for the character "Sebastian" (see attached pic 1) to show up in the sets. Maybe he´ll show up in a second batch of sets ...
Are there any clearer images yet of set 70257 "Dorfladen" /"Town Shop" (*) ?
I´m interested to see what the pants of the klicky on the left look like (see attached pic 2). They might be somewhat like those of "Sebastian", but still unsure with that unclear image...
(*): In the UK it will be sold as "Local Shop Interior". ;D
Personally, I'm voting for Ploperdeplop!
LOL
You should com visit "Plopsaland" then ;)
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Okay, a somewhat clearer image of the "Town Shop" set 70257 has already been posted in the other thread (novelties dec19_jan20)...
Legs of the klicky are not the style I was hoping for...
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Are klickies & parts from the licensed themes as easily to order through DS-service as the ones from the "normal/regular" themes?
The flying eagle with widespread wings is one of the must-haves...
I recently wanted to order a horse of the Spirit series, I got the reply from the Benelux DS-service that the klickies and the animals (which are characters) cannot be ordered separately. However, all the other parts and animals which are not a character in the series, can be ordered. I can confirm this as well, since I ordered the stove of the Lucky's house.
So in the case of Heidi, I guess the eagle can be ordered as a part, but the Saint-Bernard which is a character is the show, will probably not be available for separate orders.
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In the UK it will be sold as "Local Shop Interior". ;D
But only to Local people....
You should com visit "Plopsaland" then ;)
Thanks for the tip!
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I got the reply from the Benelux DS-service that the klickies and the animals (which are characters) cannot be ordered separately.
That confirms what I´ve heard so far and what I feared. I tried to order several accessories from klickies (so not the klickies themselves) from a licensed theme a while ago, and that didn´t always work out either.
Sometimes there are great klickies in these licensed sets that I really want, but I don´t want to buy an entire expensive set (sometimes including a building) which I have no use for just to get a klicky. And ordering a few more through DS for customizing purposes will also not be possible...
Darn, this is a very bad evolution. :hissyfit:
In that case the future for klicky-customizers looks pretty dark, with more and more of the regular themes being replaced by licensed ones.
Btw, is the "Movie Theme" a licensend one as well, or is it a "regular" theme?
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Btw, is the "Movie Theme" a licensend one as well, or is it a "regular" theme?
It is licensed as well unfortunately! Even the new bowler hat of Marla... And yes, it seems Playmobil found a way to let collectors buy complete sets again...
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The high-res pictures (source: official Playmobil website):
(https://media.playmobil.com/i/playmobil/70253_product_detail)
(https://media.playmobil.com/i/playmobil/70254_product_detail)
(https://media.playmobil.com/i/playmobil/70255_product_detail)
(https://media.playmobil.com/i/playmobil/70256_product_detail)
(https://media.playmobil.com/i/playmobil/70257_product_detail)
(https://media.playmobil.com/i/playmobil/70258_product_detail)
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Thanks for the high-res pics :)
It is licensed as well unfortunately! Even the new bowler hat of Marla... And yes, it seems Playmobil found a way to let collectors buy complete sets again...
A disaster...
Customizing or building scenes with multiples of the same klicky (or customized variations) or multiples of the same part or accessory will be reserved solely to the most finanicially fortunated people.
Who will buy 10 complete expensive sets just to get 10 brown bowler hats?? 8} 8} 8}
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On the one hand yeah, but on the other hand keep in mind this is Playmobil. They reuse molds many times. The building from the new pizza cafe was also in the 5129 harbour cafe, 5432 campsite, and 5634 preschool. Odds are good something like a hat will be back again in a regular set eventually. Special paint often will not, but the basic shapes do come back.
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Who will buy 10 complete expensive sets just to get 10 brown bowler hats?? 8} 8} 8}
There's always paint.
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On the one hand yeah, but on the other hand keep in mind this is Playmobil. They reuse molds many times.
Yes, but it is never sure upfront which part, klicky or accessory will be reused or not later on, and how long one will have to wait for that. Sometimes just a few months, sometimes decades. The "pig-being-roasted" from the pirates´ theme is back this year, but it took them 30 years to reuse/re-release that item.
There's always paint.
The bowler hat I used as example is a not so common item, even in black.
And I don´t want to spend most of my time repainting stuff. Repainting some parts occasionally, fine.
Btw, time being spent on erasing increasing loads of unwanted prints is also going up steep.
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Oh man, I had a hard enough time resisting the Alpine theme. Maybe I'll get the shop and Clara for Victorian-y parts.
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Oh man, I had a hard enough time resisting the Alpine theme. Maybe I'll get the shop and Clara for Victorian-y parts.
I didn't manage to resist both the summer Alpine nor the winter Alpine themes - but this is definitly a theme I want.
Though I am somewhat underwhelmed by some of the figures; specially Peter looks somewhat 'boring' to me.
Still- plenty / too much that I probably will buy … sigh.
Bogro
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I didn't manage to resist both the summer Alpine nor the winter Alpine themes - but this is definitly a theme I want.
Though I am somewhat underwhelmed by some of the figures; specially Peter looks somewhat 'boring' to me.
Still- plenty / too much that I probably will buy … sigh.
Bogro
TBH, I did get a couple small Alpine sets (OMG the cows!), but I'm trying very hard not to start another theme. I don't actually know the characters, except Heidi of course. But there are some great old timey parts in this theme.
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The bowler hat I used as example is a not so common item, even in black.
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Btw, time being spent on erasing increasing loads of unwanted prints is also going up steep.
Fortunately the brown bowler hat is available via ds but I don't understand why something like horses are copyrighted like they are.
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Many of the licensed theme animals have unique paint on them to make them look like the characters. It's not different than a klicky that is specific to a character.
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The horses from the new prison cart set are just dark horses with black manes. Nothing particularly characterful about them. Plus the movie is a playmobil franchise so why are they treating their own property like this?
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Plus the movie is a playmobil franchise so why are they treating their own property like this?
That is an interesting question...
For the same reason they wouldn't sell the little Rico on the pcc?! ???
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That is an interesting question...
For the same reason they wouldn't sell the little Rico on the pcc?! ???
Was that the rowboat boy?
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Rico is the Zirndorf Funpark pirate mascot
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Rico is the Zirndorf Funpark pirate mascot
Thanks. I see there are a couple of sets based on him. I was thinking of the kid version in the paddle boat.
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Thanks. I see there are a couple of sets based on him. I was thinking of the kid version in the paddle boat.
That was the one I meant, yes..
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Fortunately the brown bowler hat is available via ds but I don't understand why something like horses are copyrighted like they are.
The bowler hat is "available", but I tried to order it and I got the reply that it is part of a licensed klicky, so no, you can't order the hat separately... In other words: the hat is part of the characteristics of the figure.
The same goes for the fur cape of Astrid: https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30096372 . Not available for separate orders.
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The bowler hat is "available", but I tried to order it and I got the reply that it is part of a licensed klicky, so no, you can't order the hat separately... In other words: the hat is part of the characteristics of the figure.
The same goes for the fur cape of Astrid: https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30096372 . Not available for separate orders.
Ugh!
Who makes these stupid decisions? It's a brown hat with a playing card printed on it. They should have done what they did when the Super4 stuff came out and the shoulder armour came in printed and non-printed versions.
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Who makes these stupid decisions?
Because then people would.. BUY THEM. The HORROR. Give them.. MONEY. Yuck. Especially foreign money.. you how they avoid foreign currency, especially... (and yes, foreign euros are also foreign currency, apparently).
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I mentioned it before, it seems Playmobil has found a way to let us buy complete sets again. Don't get me wrong, I still buy complete sets, but like all of us, sometimes we just want useful parts. In a way I am lucky that I live close to Germany and I can wait until the expensive licensed sets are discounted. I'm sure that all Movie sets will be -50% in Galeria Kaufhof within 1 year.
On the other hand, I want to add something, once I ordered one of the horses of the Spirit series and according to the reply of Playmobil it is Dreamworks that decided which part can be sold separately or not.
Remember the Roncalli series, every part was available for separate orders, I ordered many parts. So, if we are lucky Studio 100 gives permission to Playmobil to sell everything separately of the Heidi series. We'll have to wait to find out!
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It´s a catastrophe for people who customize a lot (like me). I´m not going to buy a set of 20, 30 or more euros to get 1 (!!!) small accessory like a hat, a moneybag or a shoulderbelt with a worth of 50 cents.
Also, like I mentioned in another thread, the vast amount of slight differences of specific colours make customising (recent) figures nowadays really complicated. Momentarily there are f.e. 4 variations of darkred (torsos, arms, legs, longcoats, etc) which do not exactly match with one another. It looks okay in evening-light but in daylight it just doesn´t look right when you assemble a klicky out of parts with colours that aren´t a true match. I think they do this on purpose as well, to make customizing more difficult.
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Because I love sleuthing! Hereby some very interesting pictures (source: Rakuten), click to enlarge:
(https://images.fr.shopping.rakuten.com/photo/1296892775.jpg)
(https://images.fr.shopping.rakuten.com/photo/1296893132.jpg)
(https://images.fr.shopping.rakuten.com/photo/1296893681.jpg)
(https://images.fr.shopping.rakuten.com/photo/1296892822.jpg)
(https://images.fr.shopping.rakuten.com/photo/1296893865.jpg)
(https://images.fr.shopping.rakuten.com/photo/1296894171.jpg)
(https://images.fr.shopping.rakuten.com/photo/1304096856.jpg)
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Double post... anyway, the pictures can finally give us the answers to some mysteries!
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Another double post... I have a bad connection! My apologies!
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I don't know much about Heidi (I always thought she was blonde) but I must say I really like the clean classic look of these sets. No goofy faces either, just good traditional three-mark ones. The first licensed sets I actually kind of like! :skull:
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Thanks for the large, detailed pics.
Cool figures and some nice accessories.
The buildings however...
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It's a real shame the father has no printed torso, so it's not only the "too small apron"! Would have been nice to make a customised fat guy! Although the legs are very useful!
(https://images.fr.shopping.rakuten.com/photo/1296893865.jpg)
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It's a real shame the father has no printed torso, so it's not only the "too small apron"!
Yeah, a simple print around the neck would have made all the difference.
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(..) so it's not only the "too small apron"!
The apron is not small - it's just plain wrong. It is NOT for fat guys. Or women. But apparently that is too complicated for someone at playmobil to underastand...
Nothing that can't be fixed, but I think we only have "fat aprons" in light color. No idea if they even exist in dark. Do they?
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Nothing that can't be fixed, but I think we only have "fat aprons" in light color. No idea if they even exist in dark. Do they?
The aprons for fat guys exist in white, a light yellow, a very dark yellow (some people who see less variations of the colour-spectrum might call it orange) and a mid-green. I´m not aware of other colours...
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Thank you so much for posting the pictures of HEIDI 3D TV series Playmobil sets and I must admit that I am a little disappointed by the very basic level of detail and finish of the classroom and grocery store furniture.
These to me are more evocative of a 21st century office than a late 19th century environment and décor. The grocery store shelf and cash register desk are so very simplistic in their design. It clearly shows no intention whatsoever of recreating a designated era and I so miss the wonderful level of details of the original Playmobil Victorian sets :(
I will most definitely buy the set including Mr Sesemann, Ms Rottenmeier and Clara as I like the figures :love:
But that's about it as far as I am concerned.
Karim
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These are nice sets, with some interesting klickies, buildings, scenery and accessories. I would be very happy to be given them as presents (in case any of my family are reading this.... 8})
Does anyone agree with me that showing the characters from the TV series on the set boxes might be a bit of a mistake, because some of the PM versions hardly look like the on-screen versions at all? Heidi is OK, but the shopkeeper in 70257 is quite off (needs a PM double chin!), as is the lady in 70258 (needs a different hairstyle). IMO, of course.
The bendy arms and legs of the TV versions are an obvious difference, but the lack of variety in PM body shapes, head shapes and heights (all children are the same size, for example) means that some look little like their screen counterparts, IMO again.
This is a problem for all PM copies of licensed characters, of course. Children probably don't mind that the figures they play with are quite a lot different from the movie versions. This has certainly not limited Lego sales, it seems. If there are true-to-original versions produced by Mattel or whoever, my worry is that those will be preferred over the PM versions. Does PM have an exclusive license to market Heidi sets, or are there competitors?
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I really wonder why Playmobil waited so long after the worldwide release of the HEIDI 3D TV animated series in 2015 and its already luke warm reception from most countries in terms of portraying the main characters and sticking to an original storyline loved around the world. I remember very well the TV series being shown in France in 2015 and really enjoyed the Frankfurt based episodes. Though a timeless story, most kids who watched it at the time would have forgotten about it by now, 4 years after its original release ???
There are definitely interested parts in the sets to be released and I only regret that the Frankfurt part of the story wasn't revisited in terms of set release as Mr Sesemann's town mansion would have been any Victorian collector a dream come true...
I nevertheless very much look forward to add to my collection Mr Seselmann, Ms Rottenmeier and Clara :love:
I hope that I do not sound too harsh in my appreciation of these sets but from a Victorian collector perspective, Playmobil could have done so much better with regards to the classroom and grocery store sets...
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I saw Heidi when I was little... this new version means nothing to me... Though the characters are somewhat recognizable, of course.
And I also don't really recall a lot of details...
But the sets.. Gorgeous klickys, and some nice things... But why is that woman in 70258 purplish and not grey? Would be MUCH MUCH MUCH better in grey (greys come right after browns, and there are so very few :'( )
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Does anyone agree with me that showing the characters from the TV series on the set boxes might be a bit of a mistake, because some of the PM versions hardly look like the on-screen versions at all? [...]
This is a problem for all PM copies of licensed characters, of course.
I do see your point here. Klickies have somewhat weird if iconic body proportions, and it's easier to embrace their aesthetics with "anonymous" characters rather than licensed ones. Say you're holding a PM firefighter in hand, you'd never question that's how a firefighter should look – that's how a PM firefighter looks, and since it's not meant to reproduce any distinctive features of a given person, everything works. But once we turn to movie/cartoon characters, the emphasis shifts to body proportions, facial features and hair – that's what makes a character instantly recognizable, and unluckily it's an area klickies tend to be weaker in.
As for the timing of these sets, I can't argue it seems kinda odd with regards to when Heidi last aired.
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Well, if people want realism, I have no idea why they even look at playmobil.. for that, go to 12" Hot Toys :love:
IMO, anyways
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But once we turn to movie/cartoon characters, the emphasis shifts to body proportions, facial features and hair – that's what makes a character instantly recognizable, and unluckily it's an area klickies tend to be weaker in.
It's almost as if the old man had good reasons not to do licensing... :'(
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Klickies have somewhat weird if iconic body proportions, and it's easier to embrace their aesthetics with "anonymous" characters rather than licensed ones.
Very true! Let's go back to bedrock: given their proportions, Klickies are children pretending to be adults (knights, firefighters, builders) by donning some trademark accessories. This is how Hans Beck designed them, and he stuck to his idea and did not try to improve the standard form other than by introducing facial hair (= children wearing fake beards) and creating fat klickies (= chubby children). Ever since a lot of designing has been going on that no longer adheres to Beck's principle (stubble face, ::) swimsuit figure, :0 etc. ), but the child-like proportions stayed. It makes it much harder to reproduce proper adults.
It's almost as if the old man had good reasons not to do licensing... :'(
Do you mean Horst Brandstätter? I think he wouldn't have minded, he was a businessman after all. Licensing just wasn't done back in the day.
Best wishes
StJohn
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It makes it much harder to reproduce proper adults.
But they are not meant to. Even Airgam are better proportioned.. that is why I think realism doesn't mix that well with playmobil... Like amazing paintjobs with rust and such - they are gorgeous.. but them it seems that the klickys seem out of place...
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Well, if people want realism, I have no idea why they even look at playmobil.. for that, go to 12" Hot Toys :love:
Spot on tahra, I've been thirsting after Hot Toys stormtroopers for years now! :love:
The point I was trying to make was not about realism though. I wouldn't want klickies to be any more realistic than they already are – indeed, I tend to shy away from more sophisticated customizations made with clay, paint, textiles, and so on. Proportions sure are off, but they work both on their own and in conjunction with tools, vehicles, and animals.
When you see a PM construction worker, there's no mistaking it for anything else than a construction worker. The same – I think – cannot be said when you see PM Ghostbusters. Take Venkman and Stantz: if it weren't for the nametags, would the slightly different hairpiece be enough to tell two individuals apart? (Photo from Kastor's Korner)
(http://kastorskorner.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Playmobil-Ecto-A-Kastors-Korner-08.jpg)
Playmobil allow a great degree of personalization (changing hair/beard on a klicky sometimes makes a huge difference), but at the same time there's little to make a character which exists outside of the PM world recognizable – even more so with standard heads. Heads like the ones from Playmobil: The Movie, while unsettling from a certain point of view, might be more suited to movie characters: should they manage to capture a few iconic traits, they'd make it far easier to identify individual characters, even for an untrained observer.
Let's go back to bedrock: given their proportions, Klickies are children pretending to be adults (knights, firefighters, builders) by donning some trademark accessories. This is how Hans Beck designed them [...]
I had no clue about that! I was only aware Playmo-heads are the way they are because eyes and mouth are what children focus on when drawing people.
Truth be told, I can't say I see much of a discrepancy between regular klickies and speedo klickies. There's no radical design differences and the latter allow for customizing opportunities aplenty withouth looking out of place when side by side with regular klickies.
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Spot on tahra, I've been thirsting after Hot Toys stormtroopers for years now! :love:
I can resist stormtroopers fine. If they do a proper Ahsoka.... I am lost. And then she WILL need Ani to keep her company (and I doubt I could persuade my sister to part with hers ;D ) <wallet shudders>
The same – I think – cannot be said when you see PM Ghostbusters. Take Venkman and Stantz: if it weren't for the nametags, would the slightly different hairpiece be enough to tell two individuals apart? (Photo from Kastor's Korner)
I suppose that depends on what the "original" character has going, and how familiar you are. I cannot comment on ghostbusters, I only tell them apart by the nametag, or "the one with the elvis hair" - but I don't really know the characters... or care.
But it CAN work.. Look up Serenity's avatar: Sereinty's Profile (https://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4) - even before the name, and from a tiny avatar "chest-up", I could tell it was Zoe! That is an AMAZING work right there :love: (mine are in the works for YEARS - started after hers)
Same goes, IMO, with the main character customs from Battlestar Galactica (link on playkingdoms (http://www.playkingdoms.com/pk2/museum/one/bsg/bsg1.aspx)) - in fact, I sent a lousy pic via sms to my sister of just the torsos drying, and they are instantly recognizable... I thing ANYONE who ever saw Galactica would immediatly see Apollo, Starbuck, Boomer, Adama, Tigh and Athena... Maybe Sheba.. and Boxey...
I think the original characted MUST have something to tell him/her apart from everyone else.. or.. well... playmofaces being what they are.. And on this I think we should really not go the way of weird unklicky like prints - though I think some of the movie are close enough - Dasher's stupid face excepted - or where does it stop? Should they have ears? A nose? <GASP>.
(maybe this discussion about playmobil as means to portray non-playmo characters should be moved to another thread, if a mod sees this? )
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Along this discussion of character and Klickies - the new Scooby Doo series are great - just regular klickies but the hair and clothing choices are perfect for the characters and you can tell it's them right away. The only one that is off a little is Shaggy who is very hard to do in Klicky form since the character is tall and thin.
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PM as a toy concept forever has the figure at its heart, lavishing attention on its wearables and accessories. The further one moves away from this centre, the more ephemeral it gets: there weren't any buildings in the first half decade of PM's existence, and the long 'building boom' – starting with the introduction of Steck und continued through the System X years – has been erratic and is now dying out, despite its adult fanbase. Ask a child to show you his favourite PM, and I guess it will present some figure. Ask what its favourite Lego part is, and my guess/experience is that some ingenious building brick will be produced. They are toys for different age and interest groups.
Beck's original design was a work of genius, above all else in how he found the absolute perfect ratio for the body and its parts and whatever objects that the figures can hold or carry. It makes PM is instantaneously recognisable, and universally loved.
Truth be told, I can't say I see much of a discrepancy between regular klickies and speedo klickies. There's no radical design differences and the latter allow for customizing opportunities aplenty withouth looking out of place when side by side with regular klickies.
The legs of speedo klickies have been slimmed down in order to make them appear more realistic (same with knights' chicken legs and many others) and their body has been sculpted towards realism (breast and belly clearly articulated) – they now intentionally resemble adults with HUGE heads.
My critique is more than a matter of taste. As a fact, I do like speedos and agree that they blend in well, but also see them as the beginning of a perilous turn away from Beck's golden ratio. Super 4, Spirit and whatever Manga lookalikes that are now about to follow are departing much more radically from the norm of yesterday. How will this end? Will they still be recognisable as PM? I am not confident, because it is a bit like Lego phasing in new building methods incompatible with the classic studs and tubes ... 8}
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(maybe this discussion about playmobil as means to portray non-playmo characters should be moved to another thread, if a mod sees this? )
You're totally right, I'm afraid I've been derailing this discussion from its original subject. I'll try to keep it short: those are extremely valid points all of you tahra, Tiermann, and StJohn are making and I'm glad we could have this discussion. Thanks for the customs you linked tahra, those are lovely and indeed if one is familiar with the characters you can't get them wrong.
And on this I think we should really not go the way of weird unklicky like prints - though I think some of the movie are close enough - Dasher's stupid face excepted - or where does it stop? Should they have ears? A nose? <GASP>.
I'm not by any means in favor of adding further details (nose, ears) to PM heads, though I think making what we have (eyes, mouth, eyebrows) slightly more detailed might have its reasons in certain cases. On the other hand Tiermann is right, Scooby Doo klickies are instantly recognizable and look great with standard heads.
Super 4, Spirit and whatever Manga lookalikes that are now about to follow are departing much more radically from the norm of yesterday.
As for those figures, their look hasn't grown on me either, StJohn. At least they seem to be niche and confined to certain themes, for the moment.
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(puts on moderator hat *klick* :playmo: ) I think the discussion's flowed naturally out of consideration of the Heidi sets, don't see a need to split. If someone would like to start a megathread for discussion of Playmo aesthetics, that'd probably be popular.
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Ask a child to show you his favourite PM, and I guess it will present some figure. Ask what its favourite Lego part is, and my guess/experience is that some ingenious building brick will be produced. They are toys for different age and interest groups.
Yes, playmobil was always about the "people", while lego is (supposed to be) about the buildings... Though I THINK there are plenty of lego sets that stray from the concept, with specific huge parts that are good for nothing else. That sounds familiar :(
Super 4, Spirit and whatever Manga lookalikes that are now about to follow are departing much more radically from the norm of yesterday. How will this end? Will they still be recognisable as PM? I am not confident, because it is a bit like Lego phasing in new building methods incompatible with the classic studs and tubes ... 8}
AFAIK, these new weird ones ARE speedos, right? And the "series" among them look to be speedos and normal ones. I would really like the spirit-like faces, if they weren't printed so high on the heads that make them look retarded. I would LOVE to know the why of such a decision. And they would be sooo nice - useless (as in can't do customs), but pretty. The fairies with that starved-full-diaper-legs-apart look are less... nice.
You're totally right, I'm afraid I've been derailing this discussion from its original subject. I'll try to keep it short: those Thanks for the customs you linked tahra, those are lovely and indeed if one is familiar with the characters you can't get them wrong.
Yes, but they need to have SOMETHING for us to "hold on to"... I mean, faces are all alike, but still... :)
I have been struggling with some customs for YEARS (SAaB, Clone Wars, Terra Nova, Black Sails, Defiance)... I mean Apollo was in the works BEFORE my moronic years!
(puts on moderator hat *klick* :playmo: ) I think the discussion's flowed naturally out of consideration of the Heidi sets, don't see a need to split. If someone would like to start a megathread for discussion of Playmo aesthetics, that'd probably be popular.
Well, I disagree. :P ALL OT discussins flow naturally from whatever it is we were discussing.. but not only this is completely unrelated to Heidi, but there are too many posts off topic by now, and (IMO), it's an interesting subject all by itself, that should be apart. Oh well.