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Re: Martin Luther change
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2017, 12:29:00 »
I know some Christians do regard the Old Testament as irrelevant now that there is the New Testament, but for most the two are used in worship and study.

There is an old saying, "The New is in the Old concealed, the Old is by the New revealed", which sums up a view of the relationship between the two.
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Re: Martin Luther change
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2017, 08:52:58 »
The logic of this accusation is quite tortured. Still, it could have been worse - the book could be showing a differen text by Luther. I have a mockup of 6099 with this text but I won't be posting it because it's so offensive! (PM if interested)
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Re: Martin Luther change
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2017, 02:18:30 »
Da das AT als Tenach nach wie vor das Heilige Buch des Judentums darstellt, kann ein "Ende des AT" auch als Ende des Judentums mißverstanden werden. Und das wäre eindeutig andijüdisch, wenn nicht sogar antisemitisch. Für ihn war aber immer wichtig "was Christum treibet", also ob ein Text Jesus und seine Botschaft zum Mittelpunkt hat oder nicht - egal ob im AT oder NT.
Luther zeigte sich in seinen späten Schriften leider recht antisemitisch, und es gibt die These, daß das aus Enttäuschung heraus geschah: er konnte einfach nicht verstehen, wie jemand nicht von der Gnade allein aus Glauben überzeugt sein konnte - sei er Jude oder Katholik.

As our Old Testament still is the holy book of Jews, so an ENDE to the Old Testament could be seen as an end to that religion. And that of course would be at least anti jewish if not anti semitic as such. To Luther the point always was "was Christum treibet" (if it's about Jesus Christ) - no matter if it's an Old or a New Testament text.
He indeed turned very anti jewish in later years and it is considered that's a result of frustration. He couldn't understand how anybody could not follow the way of that amazing grace just for faith - be he a Jew or a Catholic.


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Re: Martin Luther change
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2017, 03:03:02 »
Thank you for that information, Stefan.
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Re: Martin Luther change
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2017, 04:02:59 »
Hi guys!
There's currently a report for this thread, so while we sort it out, it will be locked.
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Re: Martin Luther change
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2017, 02:55:40 »
Done.
One reply was required to be removed by its own author, to prevent some misunderstanding.

On the other hand, have in mind that this thread, at least IMO, is "borderline" with GUIDELINE #4, so it might be locked again if the Mod Team decides so.

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Re: Martin Luther change
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2017, 18:13:14 »
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Re: Martin Luther change
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2017, 18:21:01 »
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Re: Martin Luther change
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2017, 21:19:38 »
It now looks rather like both books begin at the middle.

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Re: Martin Luther change
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2017, 08:16:40 »
It now looks rather like both books begin at the middle.

Yup! They should have printed the Old Testament title upside down too!
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