thanks a million, Gordon!!

I did spend a while studying klickie's torsos and their internal frames...trying to see if there's a way...lots of cutting of the internal frame but not needing to cut the external torso..but I gave up...

now that I have seen Matchboxluc's use of the female and male frames.....ingenious!!!!
its a real motivation...I'll take a serious relook...but I dont want to cut torsos if I can help it
