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Creative => Customs Gallery => Topic started by: CountBogro on October 24, 2011, 13:49:40
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After having bought a lot of crusader-blisters (for only 2-3 euro's a piece!) I had a lot of red crusaders left. I definitly did NOT want them as such. Suddenly, after I saw a slight custom by someone else (I forgot where and from whom; sorry) I decided to go for a heavy infantry regiment to support the light swordsmen. The front armour would hide the red cross. They wouldn't carry shields as they would wield polearms. After a investigations I knew that around 1200 they would have had spears as the other forms weren´t much in use (yet). Fortunately, PB has one such spear in the Mongol Special. Unfortunately, no partnumber was available - but with some luck I did manage to get them.
These guys are still very much work in progress:
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Bogro/Teutonic%20Knights/100_3390.jpg)
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This is how would like to have them all (on the right) and how they will all and up (on the left). The dark armour on the spearman on the right also exists in a silver version. Unfortunately, it was only available in a single set (5725) and no longer available. I am not sure about the darker version (which might still be available) - it doesn't look right. That's why I will try to fit them all with the other breastplate. Imho it looks better. What do you think?
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Bogro/Teutonic%20Knights/100_3391.jpg)
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I like them all, but you are correct, the silver blends together better.
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They all look great, apart from the dark grey armour.
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I like them all, but you are correct, the silver blends together better.
Bill took the words out of my mouth! Great job!
Joe
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Oh yeah, I love these ones too. I read somewhere that a guisarme was also already used in the 13th century.
30 07 6390 (http://www.playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30 07 6390)
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Nice!
Where is the dark armour from? I have one that came in a lot but have no idea where it is from. ???
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same as i said in the other thread mate
" nicee looks really niceee
would love to see a diorama truelly mate would look awesome maybe a scene of acre in a siege or so. :picsplz: " and love the spears
ryan :blackhair:
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The dark armour is plate with a fixed gorget. So this would date the armour to the 15th Century.
Actually darker armour would be more historically accurate on used armour. Often armour was left black from the forge to protect it from rust as well as it was painted (again to protect it from rust - just like we do today with our cars).
Anyway, I like the dark armour. I think it gives a good contrast with the "silver" of the legs (which would be Playmobil's version of chain mail).
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Thanks for the compliments! I quite like them as well ;) ...
... Where is the dark armour from? ...
There are actually a number of sets that have it. The partnumber is 30 60 6710 and it can be found in 3329 (http://collectobil.com/catalogue/items/3329x.htm), 3669 (http://collectobil.com/catalogue/items/3669.htm), 4063 (http://collectobil.com/catalogue/items/4063.htm), 4177 (http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aabe_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-DE-Site/Sites-Catalog/de_DE/v1319466866411/imagesOnline/archiv_products/4177-1.jpg), 5740 (http://collectobil.com/catalogue/items/5740.htm) and 5783 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=5783)
... would love to see a diorama truelly mate would look awesome maybe a scene of acre in a siege or so. ...
Sorry Ryan ... these will be Teutonic men at arms. If I remember correctly, the order was started well after the Siege of Acre. As for the Diorama - I would love to make one, but I seriously lack the space and time to make one. Besides, the unit isn't ready yet. I need a couple of Arm Greaves and the silvery breastplates more. Like I said ... it's work in progress ...
Bogro
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no mate they where formed in acre actually hahahaha
ryan :blackhair:
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well i tried to search some reference and found this on wikipedia "Formed at the end of the 12th century in Acre, in the Levant, the medieval Order played an important role in Outremer, controlling the port tolls of Acre. After Christian forces were defeated in the Middle East, the Order moved to Transylvania in 1211 to help defend Hungary against the Kipchak Turks. The Knights were expelled in 1225, after allegedly attempting to place themselves under Papal instead of Hungarian sovereignty."
ryan :blackhair:
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I must admit ... I knew they were formed in the Holy Land, but had forgotten that it was in Acre. I made a quick check in wikipedia on the Sieges of Acre:
The ancient city of Acre/Akko had withstood sieges a numerous times in its history.
Siege of Acre (1104) - following the First Crusade
Siege of Acre (1189–1191) – during the Third Crusade
Siege of Acre (1291) – Fall of the final Crusader city in the Levant
Siege of Acre (1799) – during the French Revolutionary Wars
Siege of Acre (1821) – part of Ottoman power struggles
Siege of Acre (1832) – by Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt
This means that they could only have been involved during the second siege. They weren't formed before that and they had moved afterwards.
Some more searching found that they were formed officially in Acre during the Siege of Acre (from this site:link (http://history-world.org/teutonic_knights.htm))
Soo ... you're right and I am wrong ;-)
Kudo's too you !!!
Bogro
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didnt want to make you look dumb mate hehe not at all hope your sont feel bad about it.
but i like this stuff soo anyways great job and really love them
best regards mate
(and whats kudo??)
ryan :blackhair:
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didnt want to make you look dumb mate hehe not at all hope your sont feel bad about it.
but i like this stuff soo anyways great job and really love them
best regards mate
(and whats kudo??)
ryan :blackhair:
You didn't make me look dumb and I don't feel bad about it. Like I said - I like history.
In another time and on another forum we used to have long lasting discussions on little facts of history.
Really liked those. And to be honest; it isn't about being right or wrong; it's about getting the facts right ;)
And kudos ... erm ... well, let's say that you did well ;-)
Bogro
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Like the others, I prefer the ones with the silverish-metal armor. The darker metal is too contrasting with the other armor-parts...
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thanks mate oh that thread must keep goin on then cos i love history too. :)
look forward for some more pics
ryan :blackhair:
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You guys will love this book:
http://books.google.ca/books?id=sTr2hHTtK9wC&printsec=frontcover&output=html_text (http://books.google.ca/books?id=sTr2hHTtK9wC&printsec=frontcover&output=html_text)
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I do; I also have the part 2 :lol:
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I think the silver armor goes with them better,
But I think I would mix them up, light and dark.
Armour (as Wesley said) would have been black when it came out of the forge,
and would have remained so unless shined purposefully. :)
Also, it changes them up a bit.
I would keep both. :)