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Title: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: playmo1989 on August 10, 2010, 18:53:15
the white weeding piano
 
 http://www.shoptoymagic.com/xcart/images/T/PM4309.jpg
 
 
when i first saw it i loved it but when i bought it and putted it together it was a disapointment if the battery holder didn't exist it would look better i bought it a year ago when it came up but i rememberd it and i thought to do a poll  so what do you think??
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Wolf Knight on August 10, 2010, 19:05:17
Saddly all these newer sets, trying to ressurect older ones, are generaly a dissapointment... But I do like it nevertheless.
 To tell the truth, no matter how well they try to make it its nothing compared to the good old 5551 victorian piano!!!
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: playmo1989 on August 10, 2010, 19:29:56
Saddly all these newer sets, trying to ressurect older ones, are generaly a dissapointment... But I do like it nevertheless.
 To tell the truth, no matter how well they try to make it its nothing compared to the good old 5551 victorian piano!!!

 yes for sure i don't think they try to  ressurect an old set in this case it doesen't have anything to do with the old piano ,they  made a new piano  ;)
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Coyote on August 10, 2010, 22:10:10
I gave the victorian piano set to an old girlfriend in college.  What the $%&# was I thinking!  I want it back!
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Justindo on August 11, 2010, 00:55:06
I like it, but I wish they had made it black!
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Martin Milner on August 11, 2010, 03:37:45
I've only ever seen Liberace play a white piano, and even he didn't play one all the time.

I'd far rather have a black grand piano, or better the black upright piano reproduced. That is a classic and fits equally well in a Victorian Drawing Room and a Western Saloon. Comne to think of it, since they've killed both the Victorian and Western themes for now, maybe that's why we can't have the classic black upright piano.  :'(
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Rasputin on August 11, 2010, 03:46:35
HI

I do like the white grand piano and see it as quite elegant and it fits very nicely with the theme it was intended for. If it were in black it would have looked out of place in the wedding theme that has a lot of appropriate white elements to it. If i need the black upright one I can find many on an auction site for around $20 if I am patient. I much rather playmobil produce something we do not have yet and if you really do not like its whiteness you could always paint it.

So my vote goes to "Yes, I like it"

Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: kaethe on August 11, 2010, 04:11:05
i have two of the old victorian pianos, and i love them.  this new piano is ok, for style, but i hate the color.  no one has a white grand piano except for possibly stage entertainment.  has anyone painted this one black or brown?  is the music mechanism the same as the original victorian piano?

kaethe
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Rasputin on August 11, 2010, 04:18:59
Hi

One of the most famous of all stage performers had one, all we need is a custom Klicky  ;)


"Elvis Presley's white grand piano is to be auctioned off in Memphis, Tenn. next month, along with a number of documents including his 1955 recording contract."

"Bought in 1957 and kept in his Graceland home, the piano is expected to fetch in the region of $1 million (£645,000) when it goes under the hammer on Aug. 14 2010. Presley purchased the white Knabe piano from Memphis' Ellis Auditorium where it had been put to good use by visiting gospel performers."

Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Klickus Mobilius on August 11, 2010, 05:33:58
I have it, although I'm not sure why I bought it.  Impulse purchase, I guess.  I like it a little.  I found the music won't play unless you press the keyboard a certain way.  The keyboard response is a bit too finicky for me.
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Andy R on August 11, 2010, 07:13:43
I don’t have one, but it looks ok…
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: socrates on August 11, 2010, 07:20:46
I like the piano pretty much. Especially as it is the first grand piano!  :love:

I would prefer it to be in black, but it will come in another version some day, I am sure!

I do not like about it that it plays only wedding songs.
Would love to flash it with my own piano songs.  ;D

best,
socrates
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: baden-wurttemberg on August 11, 2010, 13:53:39
I love it!  :love: But the original will never be the same as this one!


Baden  :wave:
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: playmo1989 on August 11, 2010, 18:11:39
I've only ever seen Liberace play a white piano, and even he didn't play one all the time.

I'd far rather have a black grand piano, or better the black upright piano reproduced. That is a classic and fits equally well in a Victorian Drawing Room and a Western Saloon. Comne to think of it, since they've killed both the Victorian and Western themes for now, maybe that's why we can't have the classic black upright piano.  :'(


 
why they stopped these themes i wonder  ??? especially the western theme that existed from the early years of playmobil from 1974 ,remeber that a victorian theme might not exist any more but the 5301 dollhouse has the same appearance like the old dollhouses ,(offcource they have nothing to do with each other they have totally differences but they are connected some way ) i believe because they had the moulds from the 5300 and 5305 houses they didn't want to spend more money to make a totally different mansion ,now there is a new house 5301 has been discontinioud but i woulden't call it victorian  ??? ???
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: playmo1989 on August 11, 2010, 18:17:40
i have two of the old victorian pianos, and i love them.  this new piano is ok, for style, but i hate the color.  no one has a white grand piano except for possibly stage entertainment.  has anyone painted this one black or brown?  is the music mechanism the same as the original victorian piano?

kaethe

 no this needs batteries to play , this is the problem if the batter box didn't exist the piano would look great ,you can't see it from the box pictures or the catalogues well  .they try to hide it somehow for to look more attractive   ;)
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Martin Milner on August 11, 2010, 18:23:58
Why they stopped these themes I wonder???

Simply because they can't keep every theme active forever, and these were insufficiently popular to make the cut.

Some themes seem to be forever popular (Police, Fire, Knights, Construction), while others are left ticking over. Western is still just ticking over with add-on sets available through the website and an occasional Special, so I guess my complaint there is unjust.
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: playmo1989 on August 11, 2010, 18:36:26
Simply because they can't keep every theme active forever, and these were insufficiently popular to make the cut.

Some themes seem to be forever popular (Police, Fire, Knights, Construction), while others are left ticking over. Western is still just ticking over with add-on sets available through the website and an occasional Special, so I guess my complaint there is unjust.


 yes they have once in a while some western sets on ds or specials , pehaps they leave space for new themes but i don't see them to have any future the dragons etc..... the circus that i believe it's a boring theme was almost always present about 10 years was off so the western will sure be back one day  .....
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Sylvia on August 11, 2010, 19:16:02

why they stopped these themes i wonder  ???

Sometimes old themes have to stop or be temporarily put on the "back burner" in order to make way for new themes. This helps to keep the Playmobil brand fresh and reaches out to new fans who perhaps weren't so interested in the old themes.

I don't mind that sets eventually get retired, as long as the new stuff which replaces it is exciting from a design point of view and not just made from "recycled" parts and figures.

I don't have the white baby grand piano yet but I will definitely have to get one before they disappear from the shelves. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets re-released in a darker colour one day. :crossed:
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: playmo1989 on August 11, 2010, 19:22:34
Sometimes old themes have to stop or be temporarily put on the "back burner" in order to make way for new themes. This helps to keep the Playmobil brand fresh and reaches out to new fans who perhaps weren't so interested in the old themes.

I don't mind that sets eventually get retired, as long as the new stuff which replaces it is exciting from a design point of view and not just made from "recycled" parts and figures.


i've never thought of that  :)  but in genural i beleve playmobil is making horrible sets the last years only some exeptions romans egyptians .. they need to have better disighners what people are the ones that desighn the playmobil what have they studied?
 
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Rasputin on August 12, 2010, 00:11:45
Hi

One thing we seem to over look so often here in the collectors world is that Playmobil needs to have fast sales on a very broad market. In this day and age of short attention spans kids loose interest in themes and Playmobil is trying to keep up. Companies like Lego have faster turnaround and seem to be able to dominate the market. Playmobil is really in a difficult situation with market research, design, mold creation, etc... taking sometimes years to get a particular Theme to market. By this time the market has changed only complicating the process.

Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Wolf Knight on August 12, 2010, 05:16:55
And let us not forget the video games...we live in a digital age...for quite a few years now! Children are more enthusiastic about a video game than a playmobil set... So yes, I agree with Ras, playmobil has to keep producing new sets constantly (i think lego does so every six months right?) to keep the attention live...
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Gis on August 12, 2010, 06:37:47
I fully agree with your sentiments Rasputin and Sir Wolf, I would even like to go one step further. They dont just need to make new sets but also put in new technology to show the kids of the digital information age that Playmobil is fun to play with.

So even though the new Spy theme doesn't appeal to us collectors (Although the potential to use the Secret Hide Out as an underground torture chamber is an intriging one), it (hopefully) will appeal to a new customer base with all the modern gadgets and what not.

And I am sure that it is often easier to buy the second blue box then the first so I am a supporter of the Spy Theme although I don't like it personally.
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: playmo1989 on August 12, 2010, 14:19:22
Hi

One thing we seem to over look so often here in the collectors world is that Playmobil needs to have fast sales on a very broad market. In this day and age of short attention spans kids loose interest in themes and Playmobil is trying to keep up. Companies like Lego have faster turnaround and seem to be able to dominate the market. Playmobil is really in a difficult situation with market research, design, mold creation, etc... taking sometimes years to get a particular Theme to market. By this time the market has changed only complicating the process.

Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
 

And let us not forget the video games...we live in a digital age...for quite a few years now! Children are more enthusiastic about a video game than a playmobil set... So yes, I agree with Ras, playmobil has to keep producing new sets constantly (i think lego does so every six months right?) to keep the attention live...

 
 
 
yes i tottaly agree with you that playmobil has to make new sets and themes to keep up the childrens attention  but they must make nice sets as well playmobil needs better desighners thats my opinion  ;)
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Indianna on August 12, 2010, 15:59:28
I fully agree with your sentiments Rasputin and Sir Wolf, I would even like to go one step further. They dont just need to make new sets but also put in new technology to show the kids of the digital information age that Playmobil is fun to play with. . .

One idea that has been under discussion for years now is a CAD system for Playmobil - I believe that a Playmobil CAD software package would bridge that gap for young people who are at the point of "outgrowing" Playmobil and would also be really fun and interesting for everyone else.  We have lost some of the earlier history of this idea (one such discussion began on Playmoboard years ago) but the conversation has also taken place here at Playmofriends (one thread, for example: CAD System - Computer Aided Design for Playmobil  (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4696.msg61491#msg61491)) and I am sure that Playmo fans in other forums have discussed it, as well.

Sorry, I strayed off topic  :-[  but I voted that I like the new piano - as others have said, I would also like to see it in black or dark brown.   :)
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: playmo1989 on August 12, 2010, 16:03:04

Sorry, I strayed off topic  :-[  but I voted that I like the new piano - as others have said, I would also like to see it in black or dark brown.   :)
 

 

 thats the only thing that didn't bother me to tell you i like it's colour  ;)
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Wolf Knight on August 12, 2010, 16:55:59
One idea that has been under discussion for years now is a CAD system for Playmobil - I believe that a Playmobil CAD software package would bridge that gap for young people who are at the point of "outgrowing" Playmobil and would also be really fun and interesting for everyone else.  We have lost some of the earlier history of this idea (one such discussion began on Playmoboard years ago) but the conversation has also taken place here at Playmofriends (one thread, for example: CAD System - Computer Aided Design for Playmobil  (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4696.msg61491#msg61491)) and I am sure that Playmo fans in other forums have discussed it, as well.



It is a great idea Indianna! Having a software like that can indeed ''bridge'' the generation gaps!!!
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: tanotrooper on September 16, 2010, 23:17:55
Sorry for digging up a bit of an old thread  :-[

I started playing the piano last year, and when I saw this (and it's price tag, I mean it's only € 10 and I got the batteries with it for free!) I had to have it!  :) It's been sitting on my real piano since I got it, but my Victorian piano should be arriving soon and I'm hoping to find a second copy of the piano to put on the real piano. (We also have a new piano since this week, and the Victorian resembles it much more than the previous one.  ;D )

About the piano (up here, we call this type a 'vleugelpiano' which would translate into 'wing'piano because of it's shape. A 'regular' piano would be called a buffet piano.), I do like it a lot. Playmobil has put a lot of effort into this, for example the strings that are visible and the fact you can choose to show the piano with the 'wing' open or closed. It's a bit sad that the battery box is so big, but it does have two tunes. By hitting one side of the keys, it plays 'here comes the bride' and by hitting the other side another familiar wedding tune. Overall, I think the piano is a succes but I hope it ages properly... (as in, not yellowing...) A black or brown one would be most welcome!  :D

While the piano is great, I don't think the rest of the set is that great. An exception is made for the sheet music (love it when they actually print the notes instead of some lines). This is a great touch and makes it all a bit more realistic. I do think the stool isn't a good choice. Being a pianoplayer myself, I've never seen anyone play piano on such a stool. A small piano bench would have been more appropriate. (White bench with black leather or so...) I also don't like the pianoplayer  :P ;D . It's something about him, like the combo of that moustache with the long hair that doesn't fit a wedding pianoplayer. The chandeleer is a nice plus on this set.

But yeah, the Victorian set is way better. I like this set, but I love the Victorian one. It has a Beethoven bust, a proper stool, etc. Then again, I believe this set is cheaper. I'd certainly recommend it to anyone who collects Playmobil instruments or as a present for a pianoplayer you know.  :)
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: skypurr on September 16, 2010, 23:44:32
...I do think the stool isn't a good choice. Being a piano player myself, I've never seen anyone play piano on such a stool. A small piano bench would have been more appropriate. (White bench with black leather or so...)

Not quite the right colour but how about the stool from this set for the piano stool? (it could be painted)
http://playmodb.org//backs/5324_back.jpg

Elaine (http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/mgqueen.gif)
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: tanotrooper on September 17, 2010, 00:12:27
That might do nicely.  :) The main problem is that he actually can't 'sit' on it, he has to have his legs half stretched in order to 'sit'. (he only sits on the border of the stool.)
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: kenc on September 17, 2010, 06:36:37
Altough I'm a medieval collector, I still bought the piano as I'm a piano player myself. I like it a lot! I don't have the old upright piano but I do have a real one   :)  :)
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: Hadoque on September 22, 2010, 01:46:03
As I mostly collect Playmo usuable for a timeline that starts with the Renaissance and ends ca. 1815, I like this flat piano better then the previous upright one from the Victorian sets.
(If I remember well, the very first form of an upright piano was invented around 1710, but became popular much later).
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: retronio22 on May 07, 2012, 23:20:49
In Greece it had very low price,just only 1,99€ but unfortunately it was in a limited amount!
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: playmo1989 on May 08, 2012, 03:36:53
In Greece it had very low price,just only 1,99€ but unfortunately it was in a limited amount!

 
by DS, boxed with the pianist had 9,00 euros if i remember well ....
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: retronio22 on May 08, 2012, 10:50:23
Greek ds store had only the piano,with the stand and the stool,but without the pianist!
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: rogermobil on May 08, 2012, 17:19:01
Hello,

I have just posted a short review on the wedding piano in the review section.
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: playmo1989 on May 09, 2012, 03:20:39
Greek ds store had only the piano,with the stand and the stool,but without the pianist!
 
not ds, i mean boxed has 9 euros ;)
Title: Re: who likes the new piano ??
Post by: playmo1989 on May 09, 2012, 03:22:02
ah, btw.... how can they sell they piano only $ 1,99 isn't that weird  :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
 

and the boxed one has $ 9,00