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Title: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: playmo1989 on July 17, 2010, 16:40:41
which set is 7705 ??
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: playmofire on July 17, 2010, 16:52:07
Can you describe it or say anything about it?
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: playmo1989 on July 17, 2010, 17:15:18
yes this only what i can see http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/1a/34/3840_35.JPG
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: playmofire on July 17, 2010, 17:37:04
yes this only what i can see http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/1a/34/3840_35.JPG

Isn't there a description on eBay with it?
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Ali Baba on July 17, 2010, 17:41:21
I took a good look and the pic and it shows:

- white cuff
- black flag pole
- bugle
- park of a sticker with one or more red stripes, I guess an american flagg.
- black saddle
- yellow collar

The set nr is not in the guide, but it shows on the sticker of the picture.

Some kind of direct service set  I think, probably involving ACW cavalry.?
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: playmo1989 on July 17, 2010, 17:45:42
Isn't there a description on eBay with it?

 this is the discription that has( PLAYMOBIL RARE VINTAGE ACCESOIRES SET bagged 7705 )
 
 
 
I took a good look and the pic and it shows:

- white cuff
- black flag pole
- bugle
- park of a sticker with one or more red stripes, I guess an american flagg.
- black saddle
- yellow collar

The set nr is not in the guide, but it shows on the sticker of the picture.

Some kind of direct service set  I think, probably involving ACW cavalry.?

 
must probably is a blue soldier
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Wolf Knight on July 17, 2010, 18:11:32
its accessories for a cavalry soldier! Nice set! Was it really produced by playmobil like that and with that number?
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: playmofire on July 17, 2010, 18:44:22
I took a good look and the pic and it shows:

- white cuff
- black flag pole
- bugle
- park of a sticker with one or more red stripes, I guess an american flagg.
- black saddle
- yellow collar

The set nr is not in the guide, but it shows on the sticker of the picture.

Some kind of direct service set  I think, probably involving ACW cavalry.?

Sets beginning with 7 are DS ones, although not all DS sets begin with 7.
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Ali Baba on July 17, 2010, 20:49:10
It's this ad, with pic of the contents!

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/1a/34/3840_35.JPG&imgrefurl=http://cgi.ebay.com/PLAYMOBIL-RARE-VINTAGE-ACCESOIRES-SET-bagged-7705-/370126562289&usg=__C8Oqgj1qU2Ka-WjMqw7jkqoFC8g=&h=225&w=300&sz=14&hl=nl&start=3&tbnid=Cndqx7e0l5JBlM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dplaymobil%2B7705%26hl%3Dnl%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: playmo1989 on July 17, 2010, 20:54:47
It's this ad, with pic of the contents!

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i6.ebayimg.com/01/i/001/1a/34/3840_35.JPG&imgrefurl=http://cgi.ebay.com/PLAYMOBIL-RARE-VINTAGE-ACCESOIRES-SET-bagged-7705-/370126562289&usg=__C8Oqgj1qU2Ka-WjMqw7jkqoFC8g=&h=225&w=300&sz=14&hl=nl&start=3&tbnid=Cndqx7e0l5JBlM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dplaymobil%2B7705%26hl%3Dnl%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1

 yes i know the ad but i have some problem with the american ebay and i can't see the other picture or shipping costs can you post it separetly?
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: flatcat on July 17, 2010, 20:59:16
How do we know that the seller hasn't just made a mistake? Can we see the number anywhere for ourselves?

Perhaps this is a new set that is yet uninventoried if this is so :-\

Damo :)
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: flatcat on July 17, 2010, 21:01:15
How do we know that the seller hasn't just made a mistake? Can we see the number anywhere for ourselves?

Perhaps this is a new set that is yet uninventoried if this is so :-\

Damo :)

I have just spotted the number quoted on a small white sticker Ali Baba mentioned - is this usual for playmobil/DS?
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: playmo1989 on July 17, 2010, 21:04:09
How do we know that the seller hasn't just made a mistake? Can we see the number anywhere for ourselves?

Perhaps this is a new set that is yet uninventoried if this is so :-\

Damo :)


 it is old you can tell from the booklet  ;)
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: flatcat on July 17, 2010, 21:04:52


 it is old you can tell from the booklet  ;)

And the actually pieces themselves ;)
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: playmo1989 on July 17, 2010, 21:06:38
And the actually pieces themselves ;)

 yes offcourse
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Ali Baba on July 17, 2010, 21:13:37

 yes i know the ad but i have some problem with the american ebay and i can't see the other picture or shipping costs can you post it separetly?

Which browser and which version are you using?

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It is a strange ad anyway. The seller is in Haarlem Holland! But the ad does not appear on ebay.nl, even when I set it on worldwide search.

Furthermore he accepts paypall for the US but not for Europe!

And he is away till the 25 july.
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: flatcat on July 17, 2010, 21:15:20
ooooerrr Dodgy goings on! ;D
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Ali Baba on July 17, 2010, 21:16:12
(http://i.ebayimg.com/18/!BWN,Cs!BGk~$(KGrHgoH-CwEjlLl)G!HBKW,3(dyZ!~~_12.JPG)
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Ali Baba on July 17, 2010, 21:18:04
ooooerrr Dodgy goings on! ;D

Could drop by his house. He doesn't live far from where I live.  :evilplan:
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: playmo1989 on July 17, 2010, 21:20:20
(http://i.ebayimg.com/18/!BWN,Cs!BGk~$(KGrHgoH-CwEjlLl)G!HBKW,3(dyZ!~~_12.JPG)

 oh thank you ali  :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:   not anything intresting in the end  :(   we bothered for nothing  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Wolf Knight on July 17, 2010, 21:29:11
This brings back so many good memories!! I had a lot of us cavalry klickies... now i have only 7 (old us cavalry klickies)....  :( Most were thrown or given away... never had a western fortress either...now I have four!!! plus the extenstentions, plus the towers, plus the cannons.... and around fifty modern us cavalry klickies!!!! :D :D :D :D

The trumpet in this 7705 is great!!! and there is also an officers hat in there!!! fantastic set!!! really fantastic!!!
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Playmofool on July 19, 2010, 08:26:09
The set may look fantastic, but I'm almost sure that it is NOT genuine.

The two pictures show two DIFFERENT bags (One with the playmobil-Logo printed on the bag, the other without).

Especially in the second picture the "seams" of the bag look handmade. Maybe the seller uses a vacuum machine to "seal" his own DS-bags again and make quick profit by stating it was an official set.

I have NEVER seen a DS-set using such small stickers to be identified. There's almost always a much larger sticker with the geobra saftety stuff etc.
And a sticker using a four digit number (like the one in the picture) can't be hard to come by. - I would NOT give more than 3 Euros for a fake like this.

I think it's just another way of making money on ebay - even if some of the individual items are interesting.
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Ali Baba on July 19, 2010, 08:36:12
The ad is admittedly a bit strange, but pic 1 shows that there is a bag within a bag.

The text says they opened the outer bag to show the contect, presumably pic 2.

Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Playmofool on July 19, 2010, 08:46:31
Hm, I just had a look at my MIB (read: Mint in bag :lol:) DS-sets. A genuine DS-bag with the logo printed on it leaves a margin (about 2cm wide) where there's no printing all around the bag.

The bag in pic 1 doesn't look like it has that margin, it looks like cut from one of the DS-bags.

It IS a fake, I think.

By the way, DS service started working with four-digit numbers AND catalogues in 1984. As far as I know, all sets ever shown in these catalogues are listed on playmodb. Could it be that this set has escaped collectors' attention ever since AND never been shown in a catalogue?
Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Playmofool on July 19, 2010, 08:55:10
These are the first four DS-catalogues (Thanks for lending the pic, Hannibal). They started in 1984 and all sets have been listed on playmodb as far as I know.

Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Ali Baba on July 19, 2010, 09:12:14
That doesn't ad up. Why make a fake sealed DS-bag and then open it again? If you want to make a rare fake MISB (B = bag), you wouldn't open it. That decreases the value, doesn't it?

Pic 1 had one unprinted side.

If a bag is sealed too long or too hot, the edges tend to fall off.

The set could well be from before 1984. Look at the gunbelt. That type was used from the late 70's till the early 80's was it not?

Title: Re: which set is 7705 ??
Post by: Ali Baba on July 19, 2010, 09:15:28
I'm not saying this set is genuine, though. My point is that it is hard to say from the ad and pics whether it is real or fake.

I think the ad and the seller are rather clumsy. Open a 30 year old original bag? The ad says both that the bag was opened, and that the set is in its original packaging. Both cannot be true.