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General => News => Topic started by: playmo1989 on April 07, 2010, 12:40:56
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does anyone know how many copies of 3666 were made??
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I do not think that playmobil has ever announced how many sets of a particular number has ever produced.
Maybe there are reports/statistics of the company about such numbers that other members of this forum are aware of?
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1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 :lol:
Ok, I dont actually know, but it appears to be alot!
I dont know why they ever took it off the market! ???
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I do not think that these that are being sold in ebay are all original. If playmobil had lots of parts in DS then maybe sellers used to buy from DS, assemble a whole new 3666 and resale it. Of course there is always the possibility of building a 3666 from various other sets, or what was left fromthem, and even add to that from DS....
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Create a whole 3666 castle from DS parts???
Not with US DS! :lol:
But that would be really cool!
I would have quite a few by now if I could do that. :yup:
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I do not think that these that are being sold in ebay are all original. If playmobil had lots of parts in DS then maybe sellers used to buy from DS, assemble a whole new 3666 and resale it. Of course there is always the possibility of building a 3666 from various other sets, or what was left from them, and even add to that from DS....
I've bought several 3666 (ands 3667) castles off eBay.co.uk, and have no reason to believe any of them were assembled from parts off DS. I wouldn't care if they were anyway, as long as I get what's in the auction picture(s).
It would cost more than the original castle to buy all the separate parts, not all the parts are available on DS, and it just isn't worth someone's time and effort when the eBay sale price can vary so much. On eBay US used set recently sold for $152.50 (starting price $39.99 18 bids between 8 bidders), while a complete one MIB didn't sell for the asking price of $99. Another used set with some extra figures and horses was asking $150 for an opening bid and didn't sell.
If the original box is included then it's pretty obvious it's an original set. All the sets I bought second hand have signs of play, dust, smokey smell (eeew) or damage, often figures and accessories missing or replaced with different figures. Very frequently extra bits are included as the seller (either the parent who originally paid for the Playmobil or the child who has now grown out of it) has no interest in sorting the pieces they have into specific sets. Castles assembled for the auction picture sell better than a box of pieces, but some sellers just sell individual pieces from more than DS charges, so that'd be the way to go if you're trying to make a profit.
Much as we all love the 3666 castle, I don't think there's an underground industry in reassembling these castles from new parts. Bear in mind this set was first released in 1993, so any kid who was 10 then is 27 now, and most people lose their ability to appreciate toys and eventually dump them, if possible for profit. The number of 3666 castles appearing on eBay will eventually slow to a trickle, but for now there are still enough going up that a single one isn't going to command a massive price.
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what is this ds?
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what is this ds?
Direct Service.... its our greek equivelant of '' katalogos eksartimaton'' (parts catalogue) Alexi...
In Europe and the US, the direct service sells single parts and accessories to anyone who wants to buy. Being a sinle klicky, or a sword, or the wheel of a playmobil vehicle, or the wall of a castle, people living in Germany, UK, Belgium can contact DS and ask for that specific part or accessory, providing the part number and its description....DS checks up if they have that part on stock and, after receiving payment, they send the parts to the buyer....
I tried requesting the same from our DS in Athens, Playmobil Funpark but they would not do such a thing...they are only selling a few discontinued sets and various parts organised in sets, like the complete sets that any DS are selling....
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they have any single part you need from previous sets10 discounted?
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they have any single part you need from previous sets10 discounted?
Sorry ,what do you mean by that?
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i mean you can find any part fom any set you want even if it has been discounted ten years ago??
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If they have it in stock, yes!
Last year I contacted DS United Kingdom requesting a few items but they forwarded my requests to Playmobil Hellas only to be denied because here they are not selling single parts or accessories. Maybe DS UK did not know that...
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i mean you can find any part fom any set you want even if it has been discounted ten years ago??
I see the confusion. Discounted means reduced in price, the word you meant is discontinued.
You can TRY to order any part from any set if you know the part number.
Bear in mind that some parts have acquired new numbers over the years, so always go for the newest number you know for a part.
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so from the victorian series you can find new a hat a wall a bench furniture etc..??
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yes and if they are available!
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we were talking in an another theme if the victorian sets sold on ebay are originally made at that time and everyone said no so if some parts and figures are remaid a whole set could be remaid??
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Yes. I don't understand why you find this concept so difficult to grasp.
If all the pieces ever produced were remade you could buy them from DS and assemble any set you want, but it would cost several times the original set price. Boxes are NOT remade for the DS market so any set in a box must be at least partially original.
Not all pieces are still available from DS, but many are, even pieces originally released years ago.
Some pieces are so popular through DS that Playmobil appear to still be making them for that market alone. However it could just be that they made a lot of spares years ago, and they will eventually run out.
Even recent pieces (e.g. roman helmet 30 26 5810) run out at times but more are made, so it is possible to order, be told it isn't in stock, and then a few weeks/months later it is back in stock.
This is particularly noticeable for the US market.
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I tried requesting the same from our DS in Athens, Playmobil Funpark but they would not do such a thing...they are only selling a few discontinued sets and various parts organised in sets, like the complete sets that any DS are selling....
Try writing to German DS and as if they will supply you with parts, explaining that you cannot buy them from the Greek DS. There's no need to write in German; I've written in English and 'phoned them and used English with no problems.
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are figures available in ds as well not recently figures the victorian figures?
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Try writing to German DS and as if they will supply you with parts, explaining that you cannot buy them from the Greek DS. There's no need to write in German; I've written in English and 'phoned them and used English with no problems.
Are these information available on the german playmobil webpage Gordon???.....hold on i'll have a look...
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are figures available in ds as well not recently figures the victorian figures?
They might be...we only need to contact them and ask...i am thinking of contacting ds germany one of these days....i need a lot of parts and i am really fed up buying from ebay....
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They might be...we only need to contact them and ask...i am thinking of contacting ds germany one of these days....i need a lot of parts and i am really fed up buying from ebay....
As we keep saying, anything might be available, if you have the part number and try placing place an order. We just don't know. Even if someone here bought a load of Victorian figures last week, that doesn't mean they are still available today.
I have bought many figures over the last 3 years via DS, but I know they don't advertise replacement figures on the German website. If you have the numbers I think you can still order them, but they don't make it easy by providing the part numbers.
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Pieces that are commonly called "rare" are typically not available via DS anymore.
E.g. the park fence and candles for the old piano. ::)
But sometimes you can be lucky. It is amazing, how many parts they actually have in stock.
best,
socrates
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the part number is the originall number of the item or it has a new special number? there are a few differences between the old figures and the new figures for example the victorian figures the women have a v ANAGLYPH painted on the neck that this changed and today women are flat above from their brests, and the hands were thicker than the new ones
HERE IA A WOMAN WITH THE V ON THE NECK AND THE THICK HANDS
http://cgi.ebay.com/Playmobil-Frau-Magd-aus-5311-Nostalgie-D1009_W0QQitemZ110516103645QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Allesf%C3%BCrKind_Spielzeug_Playmobil?hash=item19bb45e9dd
HERE IA AN ANOTHER WOMAN WITHOUGHT THE V ON THE NECK AND SMALLLER HANDShttp://cgi.ebay.com/Playmobil-Magd-Frau-aus-5324-Nostalgie-C0355_W0QQitemZ110348519827QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Allesf%C3%BCrKind_Spielzeug_Playmobil?hash=item19b148c993
in the ds catalogue they make the figures as they used to with th v on the neck and thick hands or the new way?? i hope you understand what i mean :hmm:
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the second link is here
http://cgi.ebay.com/Playmobil-Magd-Frau-aus-5324-Nostalgie-C0355_W0QQitemZ110348519827QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Allesf%C3%BCrKind_Spielzeug_Playmobil?hash=item19b148c993
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CAN YOU SEE THE DIFFERANCE?? :o
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CAN YOU SEE THE DIFFERANCE?? :o
No, I can't. You need to compare an original figure with a re-issued one to see if there are nay differences. The DS re-issues may not have a part number other than the DS catalogue number.
Edit: enlarging the two pictures, yes I can see the difference, but you still need to compare the same figure as an original and as a re-issue to see if they are different. But whyy all these questions about Playmobil? There are better things to do with it than ask questions, surely?
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you can't see that there is an ANAGLYPH on the first womans neck? and in the others is not, TO PUT THINGS IN ORDER I'AM ASKING THESE QUESTIONS FOR A PROOF IF THESE VICTORIAN OLD FIGURES ARE REMADE YOU SAY THAT THERE ARE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH IT THAN ASKING QUESTIONS THAT IS YOUR OPINION THAT YOU MIGHT NOT BEEING INTRESTED ON COLLECTING RARITIES.THE SECOND WOMAN WAS MADE AFTER 1994 THAT THIS V ON THE NECK FOR WOMEN STOPPED THEN ,NOW MY QUESTION IS THE REMADE FIGURES FOM THE VICTORIAN SERIES OF 1989-1994 IN THE DS KATALOGUE IF THEY HAVE THIS V ON THE NECK OR NOT, IF THEY HAVE IT IT MEANS THAT WE CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE WITCH ARE ORIGINALL AN WITCH ARE REMADE, IF THEY DON'T THEN WE CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERANCE AND WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOMETHING WITCH IS NOT ORIGINALL
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You are asking a question that we mightnot have the answer to. We can only be sure if we contact ds.
I see the difference alexi. The answear is, we cannot be sure. DS has issued vehicle sets that are considered to be classic. they have put klickies that have this ''v'' type chest. But there are other sets that have the ones without the ''v''. again it depends on the mold... and that same mold, that was used 10 year or 20 years ago, is used todya to reproduce the ds part.
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the v was on a woman or a man that you are refering to?
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you can't see that there is an ANAGLYPH on the first womans neck? and in the others is not, TO PUT THINGS IN ORDER I'AM ASKING THESE QUESTIONS FOR A PROOF IF THESE VICTORIAN OLD FIGURES ARE REMADE YOU SAY THAT THERE ARE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH IT THAN ASKING QUESTIONS THAT IS YOUR OPINION THAT YOU MIGHT NOT BEEING INTRESTED ON COLLECTING RARITIES.THE SECOND WOMAN WAS MADE AFTER 1994 THAT THIS V ON THE NECK FOR WOMEN STOPPED THEN ,NOW MY QUESTION IS THE REMADE FIGURES FOM THE VICTORIAN SERIES OF 1989-1994 IN THE DS KATALOGUE IF THEY HAVE THIS V ON THE NECK OR NOT, IF THEY HAVE IT IT MEANS THAT WE CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE WITCH ARE ORIGINALL AN WITCH ARE REMADE, IF THEY DON'T THEN WE CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERANCE AND WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOMETHING WITCH IS NOT ORIGINALL
Obviously, I upset you; I'm sorry.
Where figures are re-issued, they are re-issued using the original moulds, as with the blue firemen and the old fire truck. Looking at the German DS section on playmobil.de, I don't see any Victorian figures so I can't make any comparisons. And anyway, if a figure is issued in 2010 by Playmobil using the original moulds and colours and design, then it is an original figure even if it is produced in 2010 rather than, say, in 1990. It will actually have on the feet the same date as the original figures. If a figure completes a set you have, does it really matter if it is the original produced by Playmobil in, say, 1990 and sold as part of the set, or a figure produced in 1990 and sold by itself from DS stock in 2010, or a re-issue by Playmobil produced in 2010? When it comes to how much to pay, each buyer on eBay can decide how much they want to pay. Some will pay more than others, maybe because they can afford to pay more, maybe because it is important to them to have the figure to complete the set. Others will say, "Well, I'd like that figure to complete my set, but I'm not going to pay that price!" and not buy it.
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in a way you are write ;) ;)they use the same moulds for parts vehickles that you collect ...etc. but do they use it for figures because many reissued sets had modern klickys as the non movable hands examp. i think we must contact ds as panos thought well does anyone know how can we contact??i don't see something to the german playmob. site
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it is on a man, which is actually a reverse ''v'' from the waist up to the neck, as is with all the older klickies. you will see it in sets 7466, 7428, 7655 and others like that...the date on these klickies is 1974, which suggests that the original mold was used to produce it. So depending on what they want to produce, ds are using any mold they want.
This does not make any of these klickies rare, but they still are original. In my book, rare is the set that is still sealed in its box and is 20 or so years old.... An item ia also rare if it was produced in only one, or at least two, sets...like the hat of the 5580 soldiers....
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no pano with the men's older shirt v i s ok they use it i know in new prodused figures if the man is original you can see it from the "flat" pants not from the shirt as said in other quote .the woman's v on the neck is the rare one (the women with breasts 1986) it would cost them more money i think to make the old mould for making especially this old women's shirt when they could make the women with the new way as the today women figures are made .the mens opposite v shirt is the classic playmobil shirt that's why they produce it in those sets ,but this small v in the women's shirt is only a detail is not something classic!
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you can't see that there is an ANAGLYPH on the first womans neck? and in the others is not, TO PUT THINGS IN ORDER I'AM ASKING THESE QUESTIONS FOR A PROOF IF THESE VICTORIAN OLD FIGURES ARE REMADE YOU SAY THAT THERE ARE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH IT THAN ASKING QUESTIONS THAT IS YOUR OPINION THAT YOU MIGHT NOT BEEING INTRESTED ON COLLECTING RARITIES.THE SECOND WOMAN WAS MADE AFTER 1994 THAT THIS V ON THE NECK FOR WOMEN STOPPED THEN ,NOW MY QUESTION IS THE REMADE FIGURES FOM THE VICTORIAN SERIES OF 1989-1994 IN THE DS KATALOGUE IF THEY HAVE THIS V ON THE NECK OR NOT, IF THEY HAVE IT IT MEANS THAT WE CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE WITCH ARE ORIGINALL AN WITCH ARE REMADE, IF THEY DON'T THEN WE CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERANCE AND WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOMETHING WITCH IS NOT ORIGINALL
STOP SHOUTING.
We're trying to help you here, but your questions are very detailed about details most of us don't care about, and you use terms not in common English usage.
Anaglyph - carving in low relief
I see the fatter tummy on the legs, and I see the molded neckline on the female figure.
Moulded necklines were mostly dropped once PM started doing body printing, but can still be seen on some newly molded figures if they use the old molds.
There are no Victorian figures in the current DAS catalogue.
There is a 7128 set of "old-style" figures which might provide the old female neckline and flat tummy on some figures that you appear to want. It is an assortment, so you will not get the exact same figures pictured in the catalogue. In the catalogue there are two children, three female figures and seven male figures. None of the female figures pictured have the v shape at the neckline.
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thank you martin for clearing it up for me! i bought this set with the 7 figures two years ago and they had the new shape , but i remember this set being present for a long time from the 90's so the picture that was taken then in production were those figures!where can we see this catalog martin with the ds products?
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thank you martin for clearing it up for me! i bought this set with the 7 figures two years ago and they had the new shape , but i remember this set being present for a long time from the 90's so the picture that was taken then in production were those figures!where can we see this catalog martin with the ds products?
The German version is here:
http://www.playmobil.de/on/demandware.store/Sites-DE-Site/de_DE/Search-Show?cgid=DS_ARTIKEL
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The German version is here:
http://www.playmobil.de/on/demandware.store/Sites-DE-Site/de_DE/Search-Show?cgid=DS_ARTIKEL
Yup, that's the same picture in my paper catalogue. I got the most recent 2010 catalogue with Dragon Knights on the front from a bricks and mortar shop where I bought some Playmobil, and the DS catalogue (they actually call it an "add ons catalogue") is stapled inside the centre fold.
You also get a full current catalogue included with any order from Playmobil's website. I should have an order arriving this week so I can confirm that later.
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a this is the ds katalogue we are all talking about :o these are the current items but if you want a specific part you order for it? right?
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a this is the ds katalogue we are all talking about :o these are the current items but if you want a specific part you order for it? right?
Correct. This is a catalogue of add on sets, usually sealed not in boxes but in clear plastic bags, that are not (usually) available in toyshops, but can be used to expand a theme. Orders are placed directly through PM's website, though they also accept phone and fax orders.
What I consider the true Direct Service is the parts replacement service, for which you order by part number, not set number. The German website offers this service directly through the website for parts in current sets, but if you want to order something older or a figure (which have individual part numbers) you need to place an order by email, Fax or phone.
Outside of Germany (as far as I know) all DS orders are currently placed by email, fax or phone.
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ok thank you martin i'll watch for it!!
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Try writing to German DS and as if they will supply you with parts, explaining that you cannot buy them from the Greek DS. There's no need to write in German; I've written in English and 'phoned them and used English with no problems.
Have done that also and withour any problems bought roman helmets, eqipment, mediaval spears and swords etc etc , they are very helpful PM in Germany ( and UK when i was there ) :)
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Have done that also and withour any problems bought roman helmets, eqipment, mediaval spears and swords etc etc , they are very helpful PM in Germany ( and UK when i was there ) :)
Wonderful!!! Wonderful!!!! Onward with contacting them!!!!