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Creative => Customs Gallery => Topic started by: Wolf Knight on March 28, 2010, 17:41:43
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I am trying to customise my barbarian and Gaulish warriors but i have, what I consider to be, a huge problem.
Maybe this will sound silly but why did playmobil had to put the purple barbarian symbol of the bull on a green belt on one of the Gaulish warriors of set 7924???? 8} 8} 8}
It totally mixes up the two different groups...I know the designs were meant for children and not for adult collectors/customisers but I am on a huge dillema: Where should I enlist this Gaulish klicky with the green belt???
He has the symbol but not the colors of the barbarian warriors. I think he is much better off with his Gaulish buddies but whenever i see him, my eye is fixed on the symbol and i totally mistake him for a barbarian....
I know it psychological (which goes even further with some vikings who have some common colors with barbarians) but does any one have some suggestions????
Many thanks!!!
Panos
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I'd say that Gaul killed a "barberian" (whatever it may be! :hmm: ), and kept his belt ... If it isn't too anachronic.
If it is, lets say that the "barberians" were descendants of a Gaul who wore that belt, and that went east (???), and was one of the fathers of these "barberians" . . .
(Er .. I love to make stories! :) )
Good luck soving this. I hope to may have helped ...
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Gus
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Rio
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(Had another idea, complementary ...)
If he is an old father of the "barberians", it'll go nicely as a ghost, with the white skin & that weird long white beard! ;D
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I've mostly avoided buying purple barbarians as I think they are too silly for words, and never noticed the belt buckle featuring the same bull's head, i.e. it doesn't draw my eye like it does yours.
I like Gustavo's solution, that the buckle is a family heirloom or possibly a war trophy.
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Hi,
The same bull's head appears one the flag included in the US mass market exclusive 5861: 30 64 7542 - Flag, rectangular, ragged, with clips (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-64-7542)
Only there it's green on a black background, instead of the other way around.
Another possible solution to your dilemma is to figure that two different people/groups developed very similar symbols: it's been known to happen. In the Middle Ages, there are at least a few instances where troops got confused by too-similar heraldic devices and wound up attacking guys who were on their own side instead of their opponents. You could figure the similarity is down to coincidence.
Personally, I think it's really because, having done the basic pattern once, the designers at Geobra like to stick with what they've already got :P
Cheers,
AndrewL
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I'd say that Gaul killed a "barberian" (whatever it may be! :hmm: ), and kept his belt ... If it isn't too anachronic.
If it is, lets say that the "barberians" were descendants of a Gaul who wore that belt, and that went east (???), and was one of the fathers of these "barberians" . . .
Rio
I think i love your first idea better Gus :)9.. the second will have tremendous historical inaccuracies...not that this is an excuse for not having good fun!!!! ;D ;D
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I've mostly avoided buying purple barbarians as I think they are too silly for words, and never noticed the belt buckle featuring the same bull's head, i.e. it doesn't draw my eye like it does yours.
I like Gustavo's solution, that the buckle is a family heirloom or possibly a war trophy.
I like the war trophy idea as well Martin ... and i did avoid the barbarians, but i liked their knights and bought a few of them so that i could use various parts for customisation.... ;D ;D
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The same bull's head appears one the flag included in the US mass market exclusive 5861:
Another possible solution to your dilemma is to figure that two different people/groups developed very similar symbols:
I think it's really because, having done the basic pattern once, the designers at Geobra like to stick with what they've already got :P
True, its cost efficient for Playmobil to keep the same pattern for various fanctions....
Your solution is also interesting Andrew, having checked your thread on the use on real life symbols for knights and fanction, I believe i could go on with this one...but somehow connected to Gustavo's trophy/heirloom idea....
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I've mixed my Vikings, Barbarians, and Gauls all together into one large group and customized them, so their colors are all mixed up. (The purple doesn't look so bad when it's in smaller quantities and mixed with other colors.) I use the purple bull banner standard for the group. Personally, the bull belt has never bothered me and I hardly notice it, but if it bothers you, I really like Gus' idea of it as a war trophy from a slain opponent.
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I think another idea you could use, (one that I often use for situations like these)
Is that the Green belted Barbarien is the leader of all the purple Barbariens.
All the foot soldiers are purple,
Then you deck out your green belted Barbarien in all green and keep him as your leader.
That way he is different because he is "special."
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I've mixed my Vikings, Barbarians, and Gauls all together into one large group and customized them, so their colors are all mixed up.
Brilliant idea Justindo!!! These groups tend to overlap... I like keeping a brown color to my Gauls tought (based on their shields set 7924) and the purple to the barbarians...I really have great trouble with the vikings. I have not yet attempted to customise as i do not feel the need to..but there are a few figures, especially one from set 3152, that looks more like a gaul rather than a viking....and the pattern on the 3158 viking frontman is repeated in a few purple barbarians ??? ??? ??? :eh?: :eh?: :eh?:
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I think another idea you could use, (one that I often use for situations like these)
Is that the Green belted Barbarien is the leader of all the purple Barbariens.
All the foot soldiers are purple,
Then you deck out your green belted Barbarien in all green and keep him as your leader.
That way he is different because he is "special."
That is anothe interesting idea WarriorOfToys :)9... I'll look into it and let you know what happens (although i have already chosen a fat barbarian klicky as a barbarian leader and have already dressed my gaul leader in green and blue....) but it still worths a try ;)
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I've decided that my Viking/Barbarian/Gallic "horde" will serve many functions. They'll be Dacians, Gauls, Germans, and Britons for my Romans and Vikings, Scots, and Welshmen for my Medieval knights.
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Mutipurpose...
That is what is great about Playmobil!
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What do you think? Will he pass a ''barbarian leader''?? After WarriorOfToys's idea....
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And here is one with the whole group just to make the distinction....
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And just to sum up a very nice custom scenario....
This group of Gauls encountered the barbarian group...the Gaul that killed the barbarian chieftain in battle kept his belt as a trophy..... (so we actually have two klickies right now and none of our groups have any complaint :lol:)
How does that sound???
A big THANK YOU to all of you for your wonderfull suggestions and contributions!!!! :wave: :wave: :wave:
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In your Barbarian Group picture I think the blonde fatty to the right of your leader actually looks more like the leader, because he has better armor, but it's a matter of personal choice.
The "leader" may be one who sits and waits, watching a battle and only joining in if and when his presence would shift the balance of the fight. In this case he may opt for slightly more comfortable attire, and leave his warmaster in the better armor to lead the battle from the front.
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In your Barbarian Group picture I think the blonde fatty to the right of your leader actually looks more like the leader, because he has better armor.
Thank you for your feedback Martin!!! and to tell you the truth, the klicky you are pointing out is, by my standards the group leader...he has the looks, you are right, and i believe he has the skills and personality. Judging from his eye patch, he must have seen (and lost his eye for it) a lot of action...this klicky is not customised and comes from set 4435 barbarian ruin. If you check the inventory of this set in playmoDB you'll see that he is actually the barbarian chieftain...so playmobil gets gredit for a very good design!!!!
Having said that, and thinking about a leader always being dressed up and ready for battle, and although i like your theory, i'll dismantle the green barbarian and i'll keep the green belted gaul in his group. I find it easier to look upon him since i added a bit more green color to my gauls...
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Nice customs and pictures, Wolf Knight! I like your green klicky in general, but I do agree with Martin that the other klicky looks more like a leader due to his more extensive armor and battle scars. I'm also not sure I like the green klicky mixed in with all the purple klickies, as he looks not like the leader of the group but from a different faction entirely.
On the whole, your purple barbarians look much more fantastical than your Gauls, due to the former's helmets. Your Gauls look quite authentic and the different helmet (the Viking-style one) helps distinguish the leader.
I distinguish my chieftains not by making them more heavily armored than their warriors, but by giving them gold accessories rather than silver. This, of course, is not really authentic, as the the cheiftains would have iron swords, helmets, and armor and would be more heavily armored than their warriors, but it's Playmobil and it works for me. :)
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Thank you for your feedback Justindo!!
I too like giving to the leaders of my factions gold accessories. I do so with knights, admirals, generals or pirates.
Don't you think that these barbarians look like the ''13th warrior'' movie barbarians? I did not intend to be this way, rather playmobil initial design make them quite alike...
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Don't you think that these barbarians look like the ''13th warrior'' movie barbarians? I did not intend to be this way, rather playmobil initial design make them quite alike...
Yes, I do think they look like the warriors in The 13th warrior. Perhaps that's what Playmobil intended.
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Jeremy thank you for the links!!!
Your gauls are great but some are a bit too yellow for my taste...Still they are great to look at and I like the combination of the armor from the 4653 special gladiator in combination with the viking helmet... The dark roman torso with the armored hands is also great... I have done so with my dark knights!!!!
In your blog I really enjoyed your red dragon knights!!! Since I have loads of spares from them i'll try to recreate some of them for my troops!!!
One again thank you :wave:!! I really love you work!!!