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General => Trains! => Topic started by: Giorginetto on January 02, 2010, 11:59:16
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Hello all
As some of you know I have been busy setting my mediaval collection for the first time after 10 (!) years . I am though very keen to do something about the western train i have . Before finding, buying any western stations etc i want to get it to work !!! . I dont have any transformers, connectors for my 4034 western train ( plus two extra wagons i have ) , can someone tell me what i need to have it plug and play ?? got tracks and space for it but no clue to what else i need .... ??? ??? ??? ???...... thanks ! :)
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Hi Giorginetto :wave:
Sorry I am on a different voltage than you so we use different transformers . I would imagine your task will be to find an LGB transformer that has a track power clip rated for your country. You could either get them on an auction site listed under G scale trains or form a shop.
More fun awaits you :**:
Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
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Hi Giorginetto :wave:
Sorry I am on a different voltage than you so we use different transformers . I would imagine your task will be to find an LGB transformer that has a track power clip rated for your country. You could either get them on an auction site listed under G scale trains or form a shop.
More fun awaits you :**:
Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
thanks, i have found the numbers for thesre transformers for 220 voltage but do i need anything else line 4351, 4363, and especially 4372 parts ??
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Yes you will need a power connector like 4351 or 4372. That is the piece that takes the power from the transformer and puts it into the metal rails.
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IMHO, the LGB 5016 (50160) power terminals make much a better connection from your transformer to your track.
see attachments
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Hi :wave:
Yes that is the one Richard. I have both the one piece clip on and the individual screw on type. The screw on type is a much better connection and really is easy to use. The one piece can be fickle and I do not like it. I have one that when a heavy train goes around the unsecured track it makes the connection break contact and all power to the engine is lost :'( . I have never had problems with the other system
This is the other one
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1628/4372m.jpg) (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/4372m.jpg/)
Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
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This is the other one
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1628/4372m.jpg) (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/4372m.jpg/)
Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
I use this one for my western train and it seems to work alright - never had any problems :)
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thats great , thanks a lot all ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I have the western train with the original G scales and a numebr of wagons for it. its about time i brign this train to life could someone tell me what control unit and wiring i need to get this train to move on the rails, i udenrtsand there are older and mo renew units for that , could someone tell me which are the best and what i need exactly. The train has never been used its still boxed, do i need to do anything else before i connect the rails to electricla supply? please someone tell me with links what i need to get exactly. .. thanks in advance !!!!
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You need a (DC-)transformer (for your country) and a »connector« (and some tracks). That's all.
I don't know which electric system is in your country (where do you live -> Greece?).
So you have to take the transformer for your country (Germany: 220 V; USA 110 V;...).
DC-Transformers of Playmobil or LGB (in Germany):
• 0 to about 16 volts
• Connection: in FRONT/RED+BLUE (side/black+white is for lightning,...)
4375 (D german Version)
4378 (UK Version)
4379 (US Version)
(http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aabe_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-DE-Site/Sites-Catalog/de_DE/v1223626895531/imagesOnline/archiv_products/4375-1.jpg)
or (only Germany?):
4350
(http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aabe_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-DE-Site/Sites-Catalog/de_DE/v1223626895531/imagesOnline/archiv_products/4350-1.jpg)
4359
(http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aabe_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-DE-Site/Sites-Catalog/de_DE/v1223626895531/imagesOnline/archiv_products/4359-1.jpg)
Connectors
(to connect the transformer to the track):
4351
(http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aabe_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-DE-Site/Sites-Catalog/de_DE/v1223626895531/imagesOnline/archiv_products/4351-1.jpg)
4372
(http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aabe_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-DE-Site/Sites-Catalog/de_DE/v1223626895531/imagesOnline/archiv_products/4372-1.jpg)
LGB 50160 (better connection than Playmobil 4351/4372)
(http://media.conrad.de/xl/2000_2999/2100/2170/2176/217683_BB_00_FB.EPS.jpg)
E.G.: If it is Greece (same electric system as Germany):
Playmobil 4375 (german Version) or 4359 (more power!) + LGB 50160 (for better connection, but Playmobil 4372 also is ok).
Good luck (ask if there are more questions)!
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If you can't Find a playmobil transformer it is possible to use other brands. I've been using MRC transformer with my playmobil trains since the early 90's. Really like what zugpferdchen said about the electric system in your country. Are there any train or model shops near you?
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Thank you guys for your valuable feeback !!! There is a big train medel shop not that far from whewre i live , i have tracked down the transformers i want on ebay and i will visit that shop to get lots of G scale LGB tracks otehrqwise i will buy a few on ebay i have also tracked down quite a few !!! Great help , thanks !!!!!
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like zugpferdchen said thats all you need.
but maybe we can discuss another thing here if you don´t mind.
what is the best way to handle the switches electric ? i just now the german word "gleisunterbrecher" like when you want to park one train and shut that rail down ( trainstation ) while another train is running.
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are you talking about 4373 isolators ?
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yeah...isolators...but i want them electric also the switches but don´t know what i have to get...playmobil didn´t do that electric
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How does one connect the lighting then , does the wesetrn train have pre installed lighting ????
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How does one connect the lighting then , does the wesetrn train have pre installed lighting ????
No, the Steaming Mary has no light inside. But you could install one...
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No, the Steaming Mary has no light inside. But you could install one...
Thanks , doesnt the steaming mary with the coal wagon has two engines and if so can it pull 8-9 wagons . I got the 4375 transformer is the 4359 better and faster and/or stronger than the 4375 , is there a noriceable difference ????
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yeah...isolators...but i want them electric also the switches but don´t know what i have to get...playmobil didn´t do that electric
You need:
motors for switches e.g. from LGB (also for the garden) [KLICK!] or Piko (https://www.sc99-shop.de/shop/index.php?&configNo=4&redirectFileName=site/prodLink.htm&page=482¶m0=productNo=L12010-lgb¶m1=open_woher=4710763¶m2=resetMenu=1&dbc=32d193b027372462cc4eb032b37133e7).
+ a switch control box,
e.g. LGB 51750 [KLICK!] (http://www.modellbahnwelt24.de/LGB-51750-Stellpult-IIm) or Piko 35260 [KLICK!] (http://www.piko-shop.de/index.php?vw_type=artikel&vw_id=10525) or other. They are very expensive! I think there are cheaper possibilities (self buying or H0 switch boxes).
Thanks , doesnt the steaming mary with the coal wagon has two engines and if so can it pull 8-9 wagons . I got the 4375 transformer is the 4359 better and faster and/or stronger than the 4375 , is there a noriceable difference ????
4359 has more power. A little for driving faster, but it's over all important when you drive with more than 1-3 locos. For this it has a little more power.
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4359 has more power. A little for driving faster, but it's over all important when you drive with more than 1-3 locos. For this it has a little more power.
By locos you mean 1-3 wagons or 1-3 engines combined together ??? , i dont intend to have more than one steaming mary engine in my western train, The Train engine, the coal wagon, the open wagon , 2 passenger wagons ,1 cattlew wagon and 1 cargo wagon plus the two cabooges , that is ( incl the coal wagon ) a total of 8 wagon, will the steam mary be able to pull this or it will go as a slug especially with the transformer i just bought ???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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By locos you mean 1-3 wagons or 1-3 engines combined together ??? , i dont intend to have more than one steaming mary engine in my western train, The Train engine, the coal wagon, the open wagon , 2 passenger wagons ,1 cattlew wagon and 1 cargo wagon plus the two cabooges , that is ( incl the coal wagon ) a total of 8 wagon, will the steam mary be able to pull this or it will go as a slug especially with the transformer i just bought ???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
1-3 locos = 1-3 engines with motor or 1 engine with 2 motors + 1 with 1 motor.
The wagons/cars aren't relevant, cause they aren't electrical.
You need more power if you want to drive with many locos or with some very big locos like the US locos from Aristocraft, USA Trains and so on.
If you have only 1 or 2 or 3 locos, which drive at the same time, you don't need more power than 4375 has.
The power of the Steaming Mary is independent to the transformer (4375 or 4359)!!
If your track layout is flat, you could pull with it perhaps 6 (to 8?) wagons, but if there is a mountain (max. 2% to 3%), you can pull 3 wagons, not more...
Do you drive inside? There are not lots of mountains.
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It will will in doors and on flat surface .. for starters anyways..something tells me there will be more trains , train stations and of course LGB rails added to all that !!!!
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Be careful do not try to pull to many wagons with the Playmobil locomotives as you may strip the main gear in the motor unit. A lot of people have and you can not get the spares now.
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thx zugpferdchen for the infos :**:
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thx zugpferdchen for the infos :**:
...if you have some special questions: ask! :)
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Yeah , thanks a lot for all that info !!! :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
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Btw whats the 4373 set for , what does it do ???
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the 4373 separates power in different sections of the track layout. when you want to "park" a train while another is running you will need these isolators. i want them electric. the playmos can just be operated by hand.check the answer zugpferdchen gave me in this thread...cheers
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i want them electric. the playmos can just be operated by hand.
I don't know if I answered this point of your question. I explained what you need to have an electric switch.
What you need to stop one train (and not the other) is a signal with train control like the LGB 51920 [KLICK!] (http://www.modell-land.de/product_info.php?products_id=1654) or you can do it with a relay (is this the right word?). For analogous trains (not for digital) it's expensive...
Digital you can take a digital servo controller and a servo and a signal from playmobil [look here: KLICK!] (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lokschuppen-dominik.de%2FSpur%25201%2FBastelanleitungen%2FSignal%2FSeite.htm).
For the switches it is also possible to take servos [look here: KLICK!] like this gauge-1-switches (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lokschuppen-dominik.de%2FSpur%25201%2FBastelanleitungen%2FWeichenantrieb%2FSeite.htm).
I did it here with the 4-servo-controller »ESU switchpilot« (could also be taken for analogous servo controlling!), servos are very cheap (3-5 €/switch; in comparison: a LGB switch motor costs 15 to 25 €/switch), see the attched picture.
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Be careful do not try to pull to many wagons with the Playmobil locomotives as you may strip the main gear in the motor unit. A lot of people have and you can not get the spares now.
So this is something to be very wary of when buying a train off the internet then (especially ebay).
Why wouldn't Playmobil still offer that part?
It's like they want them to become wrecked and unfixable so you have to replace them with the new RC trains (which aren't around anymore, anyway!)...
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So this is something to be very wary of when buying a train off the internet then (especially ebay).
Why wouldn't Playmobil still offer that part?
It's like they want them to become wrecked and unfixable so you have to replace them with the new RC trains (which aren't around anymore, anyway!)...
Still it could happen to the RC trains
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Still it could happen to the RC trains
So we should buy extra main gears while they are still available then (for RC trains).
Obviously they are not compatible? (R/C to transformer trains' main gears)
I still find it hard to believe Playmobil doesn't support it's products. It's not like they went out of the toy business or only sold a few hundred transformer powered trains or this is something from 50 years ago.
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DS in US doesn't sell the gears and wheels for the RC engine, you have to buy the complete engine block. I know because I got a train off ebay that had stripped gears :(
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DS in US doesn't sell the gears and wheels for the RC engine, you have to buy the complete engine block. I know because I got a train off ebay that had stripped gears :(
So are the engine blocks the same for R/C trains and the transformer powered trains?
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The shapes of the blocks are different. You have to make modifications to the loco to fit the battery in the old style . I haven't converted any of my trains from electric to R/C. The electric block has a double ended motor with two gears one for each axle, and the RC has one gear going to one axle. I'm not sure if the gears from the RC can be used in the electric or vice versa
R/C block http://playmodb.org/setpics/7248.jpg
electric engine block http://playmodb.org/setpics/7550.jpg
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I think I remember looking and they engine block wheels are not interchangable. Buying poor condition engines on ebay is one way to get used engine blocks cheap. I found that engines in poor condition - missing roof, smoke stacks, bumper switches, ususally have decent blocks. Maybe they don't get used much after the parts fall off ;D
I've had engines in good condition with engine blocks that needed to be completely rebuilt - new springs, pickups, gease removed and relubed and the wheels sanded down to make good contact with the track.
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yep i think so too...
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I still find it hard to believe Playmobil doesn't support it's products. It's not like they went out of the toy business or only sold a few hundred transformer powered trains or this is something from 50 years ago.
Playmobil does support its products but it cannot afford to do so indefinitely. Spares are usually available for something like 7 years after an item has been discontinued and the electric trains were discontinued long before that.
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I am sure i have seen this before here somewhere but is there a software design pack for building LGB rails truck layouts? with so much truck i will desperately need it to design my rail layout !!!! :wave: :wave: :wave:
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I am sure i have seen this before here somewhere but is there a software design pack for building LGB rails truck layouts? with so much truck i will desperately need it to design my rail layout !!!! :wave: :wave: :wave:
You probably mean this:
http://www.anyrail.com/index_en.html
It's good but the free version limits you to 50 pieces of track per layout, but there is no limit on the number of layouts you can create.
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Raily 2.0 [KLICK!] (http://www.enigon.com/Museum/German/wraily2.html)
It's not the newest version, but it's free and not limited.
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I am using Raily 4.0, costs via Amazon 17,00€....
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Thank you all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wave: :wave: :wave:
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I use Winrail to work out the size of my layouts.
http://www.winrail.com/
I have always found it O.K.
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which transformer is better and 'faster' the older 4350 or the 4375 ( i have this )
??? ??? ??? ??? ???
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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4359 > 4350 > 4375
(18 VA) > (10 VA) > (9 VA)
(1,1 A) > (0,5 A) = (0,5 A)
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4359 > 4350 > 4375
(18 VA) > (10 VA) > (9 VA)
(1,1 A) > (0,5 A) = (0,5 A)
So the 4359 has more power than the 4350 and the 4375, for a biger layout or a 4052 the 4359 is recommended.
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do you have a 4359 for sale sire ? ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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do you have a 4359 for sale sire ? ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
If you mean me: NO!!!
I am using a Massoth digital power station.....
Regards
schluss
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George Which controller have you got? and how many locomotives do you want to run at the same time?
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Controller?
George has (only) a transformer 4375...
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Controller?
George has (only) a transformer 4375...
JUst a 4375 i have right now, but a fair amount of truck- 45m or so and i will be running a 4052 now but plan to run another two trains at least , a 4051 and a diesel engine probably in the near future....
will the LGB Jumbo umnit be good for this ( european version ) ??? ??? ??? ???
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Good, but not necessary.
If your control is analogous (all playmobil transformers and also the jumbo transformer are analogous), all locos will run the same direction at nearly the same speed.
You have to think about, what you need or what you want.
3 locos are not much. The length of track (not: truck; a truck is a lorry/car) is not (so) important, only if you have e.g. 200 m (then the electrical voltage decreases).
But if you want to control them seperately you need the possibility to stop them e.g. with isolators 4373 [KLICK!] (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=4373) or with signals/switches or you could control them digitally (you need then a decoder for every loco and a command station + transformer).
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I have a couple of 4373 now and I am currently working on the layout of my tracks and wating for 12 x 1200mm LGB tracks to arrive also . after that i will set my full layout and might buy also buy a G scale bridge to put in the garden ( or better make one as i have all the tools and some experience for some basic woodcraft )
I really like the JUmbo box , looks so awesome, i am looking for its instructions and i might decide to get one after all . it wil most certainly support well the running of my 4052 i suppose !!! :love: :love: :love: :love:
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So here is anotehr train question for the experts here who are always willing to help
Is there a diffrent engine block than the orginal two engines used in the 4052 that can be directly used and replace the existing engine blocks in the 4052 ? is there such a block made by LGB and if so wil it support the lights of the 4052
Is it difficult to replace the engine block of the 4052 with a new identical playmobil engine block ? is there a link or instruction somewhere as how to do this ???? :wave: :wave:
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So here is anotehr train question for the experts here who are always willing to help
Is there a diffrent engine block than the orginal two engines used in the 4052 that can be directly used and replace the existing engine blocks in the 4052 ? is there such a block made by LGB and if so wil it support the lights of the 4052
Is it difficult to replace the engine block of the 4052 with a new identical playmobil engine block ? is there a link or instruction somewhere as how to do this ???? :wave: :wave:
Hi,
there is only one engine block used within all the variations of locos (4034, 4050, 4051, 4052 4053,...) As far as I know the engine have not been produced by LGB.
All engine blocks used within Playmo locos have two small pins on top of the engine which are connected to the light.
The replacement of the engine block depends on the loco. It´s quite easy on 4050 and 4051.
Due to the light it´s a little bit more effort in the 4052.
Turn around a loco and look from the bottom. There are two plastic snapers which are holding the engine.
Slightly push these snappers and release the engine. Only take care about the additional weights in the enigine block and the wires of the light.
Regards
schluss
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Thanks Schluss !!! Do you think its worth replacing the engines in my 4052 with new ones , will it make any difference with performance or keep the ones i have and save me the spare engine blocks ( new ) i have ?
I wonder if anyone can fit a LGB engine block in a playmobil train, if that is possible , if it has been tried and if its worth doing . MInd you i think the 4052 i got is a very fast train indeed !!!!!!!! :love: :love: :love:
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Hi ,
I do not beleive that the exchange of the engine would lead to a (significant) change in performance.
I´ve have checked both engines before selling the loco, they are in a very good condition.
It could happen after a long time using the loco under high load that the metallic slider must be replaced.
In the paper box of the loco is an explosion drawing of the engine itself.
New (unused) spare engine blocks are nearly impossible to find. If it may become necessary to change the engine, then I would try to buy another loco somewhere and only use the engine...
Everything is straight forward constructed and can be easly replaced.
Regards
schluss
Thanks Schluss !!! Do you think its worth replacing the engines in my 4052 with new ones , will it make any difference with performance or keep the ones i have and save me the spare engine blocks ( new ) i have ?
I wonder if anyone can fit a LGB engine block in a playmobil train, if that is possible , if it has been tried and if its worth doing . MInd you i think the 4052 i got is a very fast train indeed !!!!!!!! :love: :love: :love:
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any playmobil wagons \///
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LGB-50050-Schienenreinigungsgerat-Track-Cleaning-Spur-G-/260775664788?pt=DE_Modellbau_Modelleisenbahnen&hash=item3cb770dc94 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LGB-50050-Schienenreinigungsgerat-Track-Cleaning-Spur-G-/260775664788?pt=DE_Modellbau_Modelleisenbahnen&hash=item3cb770dc94)
they are meant to clean the LGB tracks, can they be fitted ??? :) :) :) :) :)
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I do not know how well you're in tinkering...
You have to adapt here a lot, cause it's not made for playmobil wagons.
But this will work out somehow, if you can tinker a little.
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thank you all for your feedback, i have placed a bet for an LGB JUmbo, if i dont win i will get a 4359 hopefully and then run two trains in two different tracks with isolators . i cant wait to set it all up and show you pics and videos !!! :wave: :wave: :wave:
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Gorge,
If you put two controllers on to the same track they will short out if the positive and negative or on the opposite rails. The track will have to be isolated if you want them to run separate locomotives at different speeds and direction.
Before you set up a large layout set up a small one of just a few pieces of track and see if it works. 4375 is able to run a double header. Are you rely wanting to run all you locomotives behind each other?
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Hi,
we had the discussion about two transformers in this thread:
http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=8373.msg152088#msg152088
George should be aware about this serious risk.
Regards
Rainer
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Thanks Guys, i will be very carefull , i have already set up a track of about 15m in lenghh with the 4052, next set up will be a large track of about 50m in total length and will be controlled by the LGB Jumbo unit i just bought .
i have a few questions about the jumbo unit, can it hurt the 4052 train, can it make it faster that the standard controller i have ? can i use all of its features with out harming the 4052 ? i have a few more questions but will read the manual first ( i ahve downloaded it ) . i paid a lot of money , a very lot for the JUMBO ( please dont tell me it wasnt neccessary as i have bought and paid for it now ) , i really want to learn how to use it and use it to control the 4052 ( and will get a 4051 also but use isolators and run it with a different transformer probably will see.....
:) :) :) :) :) :)
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Thanks Guys, i will be very carefull , i have already set up a track of about 15m in lenghh with the 4052, next set up will be a large track of about 50m in total length and will be controlled by the LGB Jumbo unit i just bought .
i have a few questions about the jumbo unit, can it hurt the 4052 train, can it make it faster that the standard controller i have ? can i use all of its features with out harming the 4052 ? i have a few more questions but will read the manual first ( i ahve downloaded it ) . i paid a lot of money , a very lot for the JUMBO ( please dont tell me it wasnt neccessary as i have bought and paid for it now ) , i really want to learn how to use it and use it to control the 4052 ( and will get a 4051 also but use isolators and run it with a different transformer probably will see.....
:) :) :) :) :) :)
1. Read the instructions of the Jumbo carefully. If there are any questions, ask here... (I know, you will do ;) )
2. To test it, you don't need 15m of track, a circle or oval would be enough.
3. Did you buy this LGB 50100? It has 10 A (you can run with it 10 motors or locos with 1 motor or 5x 4052...) at 24 V!!! 8} :o
You have to pay attention with this transformer!!! The locos are very fast at 24 V (faster isn't better), but they aren't that very long. I would not threw full voltage on the tracks, only a little more than half (half = 12 V, => ~14 V), that's important for the life of the motors!! The playmobil motors are made for 14 V only.
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It might be easier to buy an inexpensive LGB car (used on ebay) and use that as your cleaning car. That's what I do for my Playmo train layout. I use a flatcar and weight it with rocks to get the tracks clean...
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It might be easier to buy an inexpensive LGB car (used on ebay) and use that as your cleaning car. That's what I do for my Playmo train layout. I use a flatcar and weight it with rocks to get the tracks clean...
This would also be my proposal, I am using a tank car with these cleaners.
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Hello to the train experts who have been bombarded with questions from Giorginetto the past few weeks !!! ;D ;D ;D
and here is another one for you
What is the best material to use to polish the LGB tracks , someone told me its good to use ' GLANOL ' Metall Politur . Is that any good for the LGB tracks, will it casue any troubles if the tracks are used outdoors ???
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Hi,
no need to polish tracks.
If you want to CLEAN them, many garden railyway users are usind this:
http://www.vileda.de/de/products/show/1903?hotspot_id=475
I expect this "Wischmop" is available all across the world.
As Fluid use water or if the tracks are really dirty simple alcohol like spirit.
Regards
schluss
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What is the best material to use to polish the LGB tracks [...] ???
We had already anwered this question - for you - here (scroll a little):
http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=8445.msg154564#msg154564
Please use the forum search before asking questions again... 8}
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We had already anwered this question - for you - here (scroll a little):
http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=8445.msg154564#msg154564
Please use the forum search before asking questions again... 8}
I had forgotten , not very good memory these days !!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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I had forgotten , not very good memory these days !!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Tipp:
Write the main/important things (know-how for the train) on a paper or in a text file (computer) to have all at one place.
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In my recent layout i used the LGB Jumbo unit BUT also the Playmobil controller which had no problems or whatsover and i didnt need to run any extra cables on my track ( total length of about 45metres i believe )
I recently bought 3 MISB playmobil train engines, these engines run to a max of 14V but since my Jumbo unit can deliver 24 V ( for a few sec i run the 4051 with 24V it goes like a rocket !!!! ) i wonder if i can open it and replace the existing 14V motor with a 24V one .... most certainly this tuning would make thinks a bit of exciting wouldnt you say chaps/ chapettes ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Hi George,
if you are able to find a similar motor regarding size and axis and if you are skilled enough to mount the worm gear on the new axis than it could work.
But I am not sure if the plastic counterpart of the worm gear likes the bigger forces for a longer period.
Regards
schluss
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Thanks Schluss once again !!! I am going to a model shop soon that specialise in G scale trains etc ( the distributor of Maerklin in Greece ) and will find out what i can do . I am sure there will be a way to have a 24 V unit in the playmo train so even if not possible i wont lose my sleep over it . will update when i have some news :)