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Title: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Sylvia on January 30, 2009, 11:05:52

The results were quite interesting! :)

http://www.toynewsmag.com/news/30800/TOY-NEWS-09-Playmobil-surveys-kids-ambitions (http://www.toynewsmag.com/news/30800/TOY-NEWS-09-Playmobil-surveys-kids-ambitions)
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Martin Milner on January 30, 2009, 11:47:48
I wonder what age range these children were?

While it's great that children are being more imaginative with their career dreams, we don't need 51% of adults becoming Indiana Jones-like adventurers and explorers, and 24% of the population employed as firemen may be overkill, while we do need doctors, farmers and teachers.

How many lawyers we need is a matter best left undiscussed...


Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: cachalote on January 30, 2009, 12:37:32
well, it's not really a survey made directly with kids.
the text says:
"The research from toy giant, Playmobil, surveyed nearly 3,000 mums and dads on how their own past career aspirations varied from their kids."

so, maybe with the lack of communication kids and their parents have nowadays, the "real" results could vary.
  ;)
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Rasputin on January 30, 2009, 13:56:13
Very interesting thanks for the link .

I for one would not even have been able to tell you what my Pop did for a living when i was a kid . not that i did not want to know , we were not allowed to know  :lol: It did make for embarrassing "share " days at school back during the "Cold War"

Teacher : so what does your daddy do ¿
me:  Um, well i do not know really
Teacher : Does he go to work  ¿
me : Nope i do not know, but he does bring home these new computers made by some company called apple, their in a garage             
        and the computer is called Lisa .
Teacher : i will be right back, i need to make a little call now  :omg: 
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Indianna on January 30, 2009, 14:18:54
Thanks for that interesting link, Sylvia!  

I think the story is being spun to persuade parents to buy toys that inspire imaginative play.  That is what the best toys already do, but if that helps Playmobil to sell more, that's fine.

Haven't kids always wanted to be explorers and firefighters and veterinarians and archeologists, etc.?  The news story says that "only 11% of parents admitted they followed their childhood  dreams" so it would be interesting to know what they wanted to be when they were children.  Before movies and TV, children were inspired by the stories and books and current events of their times.  There's lots of imaginative play in fairy tales, Robin Hood, Knights (King Arthur, etc.), 1001 Arabian nights, "cowboys and indians," Robinson Crusoe and Swiss Family Robinson, tales of actual war, gladiators and chariots (Ben Hur), real-life pirates and privateers, the list is endless.  

Few people may end up in the career that was their childhood dream but they may well be happier and better people for having had the chance to develop their imaginations and creative skills as youngsters.   :2c:
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: CountBogro on January 31, 2009, 08:56:11
It made me wonder - so I asked my oldest son what he wanted to be. He gave replied, without blinking, that he wanted to be a farmer.  :o He wanted to sow and reap from the land.
I never wanted that !!! I wanted to be a pilot...

I'm wondering though - 11% of the mums and dads became what they wanted to be. So ... what did they become ???

Bogro
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Saskia on January 31, 2009, 09:21:21
I think that the age of a child is important as well. My son now want's to become a gamedisigner, but he didn't know about that possibility until a few years ago. So when he was about 5 (now 11) he had different career plans.

And sometimes you can aim for a certain carreer but phisical of mental problems can put a stop on it. Again my son as an example, he's partially colorblind (problems with red and green) so he can't become a pilot.
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Sylvia on January 31, 2009, 11:57:43

I wonder what age range these children were?

That question rose in my mind too. My guess is that most of them would have been from Playmobil's core target age-group. But what is that these days? Between 5 and 8 years of age, perhaps?


I think the story is being spun to persuade parents to buy toys that inspire imaginative play.  That is what the best toys already do, but if that helps Playmobil to sell more, that's fine.

Very perceptive!  :yup:

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Few people may end up in the career that was their childhood dream but they may well be happier and better people for having had the chance to develop their imaginations and creative skills as youngsters.   :2c:

Again, I think you're dead right. Too many toys these days seem to sap kids imaginations by not allowing them to be creative, and I'm sure they are instilling the wrong kinds of messages while they are at very impressionable stages of development.

All I have to do is watch the difference in my own children's behaviour. When they are playing with Playmobil, they are even-tempered and happy - it's really a joy to watch. When they are playing Mario Kart on the Wii and trying to outrace a cartoon character, they become unnaturally competitive and angry. ::) Yes, I know it is my fault as much as theirs for allowing them to have these games in the house. :-[

Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Martin Milner on January 31, 2009, 12:39:00
And sometimes you can aim for a certain career but phisical of mental problems can put a stop on it. Again my son as an example, he's partially colorblind (problems with red and green) so he can't become a pilot.

ditto - so electrical engineer was out as an option, I couldn't tell the wires apart.
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Jimbo on January 31, 2009, 13:05:07


I'm wondering though - 11% of the mums and dads became what they wanted to be. So ... what did they become ???

I wanted to be a sailor...joined the Navy..got into naval aviation..from there I went into
the airline kingdom..and approximately 40 years later, retired, and now I am happily
helping to maintain a 17 acre church/school facility. ;D

Best regards

Former  swaby,
Jimbo
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: CountBogro on January 31, 2009, 14:01:34
you lucky <censorred> ... but then again; you're welcome to it. I get seasick even by the mere mention of the word sailor  :-[

Bogro
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Indianna on January 31, 2009, 15:44:46
. . . All I have to do is watch the difference in my own children's behaviour. When they are playing with Playmobil, they are even-tempered and happy - it's really a joy to watch. When they are playing Mario Kart on the Wii and trying to outrace a cartoon character, they become unnaturally competitive and angry. ::) Yes, I know it is my fault as much as theirs for allowing them to have these games in the house. :-[   . . .

 :lol: There is something wacky about Mario Kart - we don't have a Wii but my kids had that game on the Nintendo 64 and even my daughter (then a young teen who never played many video games) got really crazed when playing it, but at least she and my son (then about 7 or 8) were doing something together!   ::)   But don't be too hard on yourself, Sylvia - kids today are practically required to play some sort of video game just to be considered normal by the other kids - and just think of that excellent hand-eye coordination that they are developing!  ;D   As long as they also have Playmobil in their lives (and you for their mum) your kids will turn out just fine.   :yup:
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Timotheos on February 02, 2009, 14:24:56
After reading the article, I reached the conclusion most here reached--the article makes a good point about selling toys that tap the imagination, but it doesn't really say much about career aspirations.

I mean, what sane eight year old is going to aspire to be a bureaucratic pencil pusher?  And, unless they grow up watching "Matlock" or "Perry Mason" what kid is even going to know what a lawyer is?  (except in terms of the guy who helped Mum and Dad divorce....)

And "firefighter" is the proto-type childhood career ambition going back to the 1950s at least.*

* I don't remember ever actually wanting to be a firefighter.

My daughter may be the exact opposite of Bogro's son.  She has no career ambition at 4 yrs old other than the explicit statement she doesn't want to be a farmer.

Curious, I asked her why.  "Too much work." 
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Timotheos on February 02, 2009, 14:33:11
Yes, I know it is my fault as much as theirs for allowing them to have these games in the house. :-[

My four year old is already slipping in directions I don't necessarily want her to go.  I can't force her to regard "Baby Einstein" as a fraudulent marketting scam...

But seriously, I don't think you can take the competitiveness out of kids.  Those in the USA who believe they can raise perfectly docile gentlemen and gentleladies, who discuss secular humanism and the importance of charity when not playing with Playmobil's (non-violent, domestic) themed playsets are probably setting themselves up for a humongous guilt trip...

Actually, I ought to correct myself.  Most Americans seem to want to raise aggressive beasts, judging by the passions (from parents) that explode at Junior Football (soccer) matches...

A better playmobil theme might be "jocks and geeks", in which the geeks are all smarmy and contemptible...
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: playmofire on February 02, 2009, 16:35:22
As some people have pointed out, the conclusions of the survey are flawed as it is comparing aspirations of children today with the actual careers of their parents and also assuming that in the past children wanted to follow "popular careers" of the day.  It would have been interesting to compare parents' aspirations as children with those of their children, making allowances, of course, for the appearance of new jobs, e.g. in computing.

I know at one time I wanted to be an archaeologist and a racing driver (there were only 10 or 12 GPs a year then with racing finishing in September at Monza and not starting again until the Spring at Monaco, so there were a good few months available for archaeological digs).  I ended up, after working in business for a short time, as a teacher and then moved into examination administration.  How did that compare with my father's working life?  Well, he started working in industry on radio development, moved into education in the RAF in the 1930s, then transferred to developmental work in the RAF on "bending" the navigational beams used by the Luftwaffe and after the war went back into teaching, ending up as a headmaster.  How did that compare with his father's working life?  Well, he joined the Royal Engineers as a Sapper, gained a commission and transferred to the Queen's Own Royal Madras Sappers in the Indian Army.  Strangely enough, his father's career (my great-grandfather) had largely followed the same course!  So not much of a pattern there, apart from the case of my great-grandfather and my grandfather, and that is probably largely explained by the strong tendency for sons to follow fathers into the armed forces or other uniformed organisations, e.g. police and fire.
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Martin Milner on February 02, 2009, 17:37:25
My dad was a draftsman, but I never had any aspirations to becoming a CAD designer which would be the modern equivalent. My mother was a social worker, then a teacher for 12 years, and a headteacher for 18, but I never wanted to go into teaching.

I can't actually recall having any childhood ambitions, but I certainly didn't dream of becoming a Credit Controller.
Title: Re: Playmobil surveys kids ambitions
Post by: Timotheos on February 03, 2009, 01:16:16
I can't actually recall having any childhood ambitions, but I certainly didn't dream of becoming a Credit Controller.

Oh, come off that, Martin.  When we were kids growing up in Tajikistan you always played the credit guy in our games of debtor vs. debtee.

But seriously, bizarrely, I programmed computers all the time as a kid but never considered a career in software until age 24, two years into college.

My dad was an accident claims agent for the railroad.  His father was a church janitor after circumstances forced him to quit his job as a railyard worker (a job in California that strangely required background checks similar to Rasputin's father... maybe he was doing something else...???).
 
Yet, I've never had the slightest aspiration to work railroad.  Oddly, my ambitions took me into the armed forces.  It was the armed forces that steeled me to seek a better life in engineering...

I have no idea where my daughter will go... a lot of engineering daughters go into "humanities related" jobs, perhaps because they didn't grow up under the same economic pressures as dear old dad...  If my daughter goes into the armed forces as an enlisted person (like I did), I'll give her a live hand grenade...