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Title: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Rasputin on August 02, 2008, 18:55:06
Thanks to Rona over at Giraffe for getting the new set.
It is a another Fantasy Knight set with a new Dragon crossed with a chicken .

As much as people hate the new knight direction i know my kids will love these type of sets. as far as playmobil is concerned - as long as they make sets that keep them in business in these difficult times i am willing to accept what they as a company feel they need to do to survive .

Thank You Playmobil
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Gustavo on August 02, 2008, 19:12:22

WOW!

Interesting set!

There will be those who will like it, and there will be those who will say blaargh!!

I believe if we understand that it isn't historic at all, we will enjoy it greatly!! :)
Nice new dragon!

I believe children in general will have no complaints! ;D

Thanks, Rasputin, for sharing it here in Playmofriends!

Gus
:blackhair:


[Ps. Acually, to me, the only interesting part really is the different dragon ... The knights are awful, specially that one with wings :hmm:! But I believe some here will love to customize winged klickys with that ...]
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: sbblabotw on August 03, 2008, 00:12:17
Rona dropped the instructions and her photos in my mailbox last night, and since it was so small I got it all inventoried today.  I feel it's sets like this with original scenarios that really spark kids' imaginations, so I'm all for it, even if I don't get one myself.

5840 - Dragon Rock (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=5840)

For those who are primarily interested in the klicky wings, it seems they attach to a "non-removable" armoured collar with knobs for the purpose - non-removable to those unable to disassemble a klicky, that is; in other words, the collar won't be available separately from the klicky.  I hope they're compatible with the fairy wings :)
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Martin Milner on August 03, 2008, 07:52:17
I like this set, it's unashamedly FANTASY and thus anything goes. I have the old dragons in red, green and black, and now there's a new style with only 2 legs and 2 wings, I'll want that one too. I hope we get a chance to buy this in the UK.

Some Target sets do appear in the UK eventually. The knights, pirates etc two figure blister packs are now appearing with their own cardboard display stands. I could have got the SWAT boat, ATV etc. in one set in Toys'R'Us if Tim hadn't already sent me the sets, though I only saw one SWAT set, with all the items, and the box was battered. I'm still glad I had Tim to get me the stuff I wanted in the right quantities.

Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: CountBogro on August 03, 2008, 08:38:27
I really love the set - allthough I don't like the inclusion of the catapult. That's a bit too much in my humble opinion. But otherwise - a definit must-have!

Bogro
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: starhorse on August 03, 2008, 18:55:17
Hi everyone,

I found this set yesterday at a local retail chain that's quite common in the north western united states, Fred Meyer.  Anyway, they had several other sets not mentioned here that would seem to be US exclusives as well.  I was wondering if anyone else had heard of these?  They had:

2 different forestmen type knight figure sets.  One came with a klicky on horseback and a klicky on foot.  The other came with 2 klickies and one of the big bertha type cannons.

A smaller type roman arena set.  It was basically a quarter of the roman arena, with a seating area that did not include the white pillar pieces.

A new fire truck set.

And some new 2 figure packs which seemed to combine older specials. 

There were a couple others that I just can't seem to remember.

If everyone hasn't heard of or seen these yet, I can drop by the store with my camera and take some pictures.  Just let me know.
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Gustavo on August 03, 2008, 19:04:46

I've been looking for it, in the Playmobil.de ... This is a question to me: where do these come from??


If everyone hasn't heard of or seen these yet, I can drop by the store with my camera and take some pictures.  Just let me know.

If you could, Starhorse, I think noone would complain ;D


Gus
:blackhair:
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Rasputin on August 03, 2008, 19:07:08
Yes by all means take pictures . our target here are always a few weeks behind so knowing what is going to come out is relieving . thanks  :wow:
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Knight Train on August 03, 2008, 19:25:38
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If everyone hasn't heard of or seen these yet, I can drop by the store with my camera and take some pictures.  Just let me know.

Pictures (and prices) would be great.  We have a Fred Meyers not too far away and they never seem to have any playmobil.

Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Timotheos on August 03, 2008, 19:57:04
I actually like that new dragon a lot.  I hated the old dragon so much that I've avoided bothering to buy it.

But I agree with Heather's notion to reclassify knights produced after 2004.

The old knight stuff was "medieval theme"; the new stuff, beginning with those Starship Trooper Green Dragon Knights is more like a male-oriented version of the fairy-tale castle series.
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Knightmo on August 03, 2008, 20:03:28
I am a bit overwhelmed by the fantasy stuff in this one, but the dragon is a definate improvement over the other one.

(and I still cant get over how much that winged knight looks like a dragon world version of my avian knight)
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Martin Milner on August 03, 2008, 20:45:09
I'd love to see some pictures too, Luke. Some Target sets eventually reach the UK, others don't, but as I'm planning to visit the States 2-3 time sin the coming year I might be able to pick up a few sets firsthand - if I know what stores are carrying Playmobil.
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: playmofire on August 03, 2008, 22:09:33
I'd like pictures as well, Luke, please.  The fire truck in my case.
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Hadoque on August 03, 2008, 23:56:21
I'd like pictures as well, Luke, please.  The fire truck in my case.

I've found pictures, I'll post them in a seperate thread!
No truck though, it flies ;)
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: starhorse on August 04, 2008, 00:25:47
Check the other thread for a link to my flickr image set.  There are several other sets that aren't already pictured, such as the firetruck.

I picked up a couple of the sets, including this Dragon set.  I've gotta voice how disappointing I found the set to be.  I actually took it back 20 minutes later :(

The Dragon doesn't even seem like it's made out of the normal Playmobil quality plastic.  It's very flimsy, in fact the wings kept popping out of the joints as well as the legs.  Another thing that was disappointing about the set was the rock / cave piece.  The back of the piece is completely bare and hallow, so it acts more like cheap hollywood set than a rock wall that would work along your other Playmobil rock type pieces.

The Klickies themselves are fine, and they had some pretty cool accessories, but I really can't get over how disappointing the Dragon turned out to be.  I suppose it's possible that mine was defective since the joints kept falling out, but I really couldn't recommend it.
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Martin Milner on August 04, 2008, 13:35:06
That's a real shame Starhorse. I can't believe that you just happened to get the one defective set in the batch, it's more likely that the design is faulty, maybe the new plastic is too soft or soemthing.

I've noticed, particularly with recent Pirates sets, that the plastic formulation appears to have changed - some figures have a slightly waxy, translucent quality, not in itself bad, but different.
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Timotheos on August 04, 2008, 23:12:55
One thing interesting about the set, though, is the subtitle "Chevaliers et dragon" in the lower left of the box.

It's odd that Playmobil would use "et" (Mississippi slang, past tense of "to eat") but the fact these new knights are dragon eaters is sort of a cool twist.

Luckily, with the dragon being cheap, soft plastic, les chevaliers ne casseront pas leurs dents.

-Tim
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Knightmo on August 04, 2008, 23:40:36
Dad and I just got the dragon set. It, along with much other new stuff is now at Frys Marketplace. 20 dollars for dragon. Cheap..and heres why:

The Dragon itself is indeed of lesser quality than usual Playmobil. The head seems up to par but the rest is not-so-good. The wings are ridiculously designed--they dont move in the way you'd expect which causes them to pop off easily. (what were they thinking?)

The paint on the claws and underbelly is slopped on with streaks of overspray in a few spots. Also, it isn't very thick and you can see red through the paint--its slight, but still..not typical Playmo. My Dad said the dragon(parts of it) may be of use as a figure head on a custom ship or something like that.

The mountain is hollow junk. --just throwing that in trash.

The knights are pretty cool, though. The winged knight better than the normal one.

Ill leave the rest of the report to Dad/Jimbo.

Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Jimbo on August 05, 2008, 02:20:42
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Ill leave the rest of the report to Dad/Jimbo.


Well said Knightmo, (and Starhorse)
Whack the dragon head off and place it on the bow of a custom  Viking ship...take the wings and make a flying moose or something :yup:. Save the figures...toss the rock.

The figures are nice though as are the figures in the new blister packs.

That is my humble opinion...you know, opinions are like belly buttons,..everybody has one ;D.

Best regards,
Jimbo

Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Jimbo on August 05, 2008, 13:17:02
Hi all,
I may lighten up a bit on the "sorry" dragon...If Playmobil can fix the wing and leg falling off
problem..and if they are trying to get a bigger slice of the U.S. market, that might be O.K.

The box is huge, and for 20 bucks, the contents in the box is not a bad deal.  If it will bring more children into the fold, that's a good thing. :yup:

I don't think the youngsters will care so much about the paint job.  (I do hope
very much that Playmobil will keep up to its excellent standards though!)

So...Long live Playmobil!
Bless all the children!

Jimbo
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Hadoque on August 05, 2008, 13:50:35
One thing interesting about the set, though, is the subtitle "Chevaliers et dragon" in the lower left of the box.

It's odd that Playmobil would use "et" (Mississippi slang, past tense of "to eat") but the fact these new knights are dragon eaters is sort of a cool twist.

Luckily, with the dragon being cheap, soft plastic, les chevaliers ne casseront pas leurs dents.

-Tim

It's not Mississipi slang, it's French: 'et' in French = 'and' in English ;) The set is probably also destined for the Canadian market.
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Martin Milner on August 05, 2008, 13:57:29
It's not Mississipi slang, it's French: 'et' in French = 'and' in English ;) The set is probably also destined for the Canadian market.

Hook, line and sinker, Tim, another one for your keep net.
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Kelly on August 05, 2008, 22:30:22

It's odd that Playmobil would use "et" (Mississippi slang, past tense of "to eat") but the fact these new knights are dragon eaters is sort of a cool twist.

-Tim

I ain't never heard nobody say "et" like that - everyone knows it's eat. Fer example: "I eat the rest of them dragon chops yesterday."  Besides, it's them Louisiana folks who eats everythin' . . .

The language here can be slow and painful, as can the shipments of new toys to Target - mine still hasn't gotten anything new.

Kelly (from Mississippi)
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Tiermann on August 06, 2008, 20:09:21
Picked one up myself (new animal after all). I have one of almost every animal Playmobil has ever produced and this dragon is by far the worst. The real problem here is the plastic that the wings are made out of. It's that same soft plastic that the nun's habit was made of and like the habit it doesn't want to hold tightly to the harder plastic of the joint. This plastic type is fine when used as part of a molding - like in the new Marlin - but it just does not work when used as part of a joint. There's really no structural reason or aesthetic why the wings should be made of the soft stuff, and every reason to make them of the harder plastics. I'm surprised this made it past play testing (if it was).
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: seawarrior on August 09, 2008, 19:08:03
i saw this at a normal toy store
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Jahme88 on August 10, 2008, 07:27:14
i saw this at a normal toy store

Could you define "Normal Toystore"?  I don't know of any left in my neck of the woods.  All the big box mega marts ate all the mom and pop shops up......

....like dragons et the chevaliers.   >:D
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: seawarrior on August 13, 2008, 23:20:48
like a toystore that sells just toys
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Martin Milner on August 14, 2008, 07:20:28
Unfortunately as Jamie Jo says, they're a dying breed.

I have TRU, Hamleys, and one small independent that fall into this category, and only TRU can compete on price. Hamleys trade on their name, but I rarely buy there as they mark everything up about 25%.

The other toy stores are all single departments in department stores.
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: CountBogro on August 14, 2008, 08:33:13
mmm - it seems as if I am the lucky one here. There's a toy-shops in nearly every village. Some may be part of a chain or franchise; but they are dedicated toyshops none the less.
So, in my direct area, I have a choice of 6 dedicated toyshops and 3 or 4 other stores who carry toys. All of the have quite some Playmobil ...

The prices can vary though - shopping around is definitly recommended.

Bogro
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: playmofire on August 14, 2008, 09:40:00
Here I have a toyshop in Ripon, about 2 miles away, another in Wetherby, about 18 miles, and another in Northallerton, again about 18 miles, all of whom stock Playmobil.  In Helmsley, I suppose about 18 miles again, there is another fantastic toyshop, all nooks and crannies, but no PM.
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Timotheos on August 14, 2008, 19:56:49
Unfortunately as Jamie Jo says, they're a dying breed.

It must vary a lot by region.  Another problem is that most of these stores don't advertise.  I found all five of our locals either through luck or by using Playmobil USA's store locator.

Saint Louis has at least five independent toy stores (not counting TRU and KB Toy & Hobby).  But the markup is 25% + 7.5% sales tax.  On the plus side, these stores have a lot of old inventory floating around, especially around Christmas when they dust out the backroom.  Also, one of the stores, the two-store Toy Tyme franchise has the circus theme one month before its official release from PM USA.

Granted, at 25% + 7.5% markup.

The no-sales-tax web market and free shipping policies must surely irritate brick and mortar places!  On the other hand, maybe if these little shops joined the web-world they could expand their business and lower their prices at the same time.  Somehow Ridge Road Station in New York is able to match PM USA for price and still turn a profit.
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Jahme88 on August 14, 2008, 23:04:04
I would love to buy from independent brick and mortar stores but there just are none in my area.  My county is mainly rural, so the only place for toys is Wal-Mart....and I am still keeping fingers crossed that Playmobil will show up at mine. :crossed:

The next county over is the KC metro area.  All of the small independent toy stores that used to exist in the burbs have gone out of business in the last few years, so Target an TRU is it for available Playmo.  There perhaps 1 or 2 in the inner city area, and 1 or 2 more across the state line on the Kansas side.  But for me we are talking an hour or more drive to shop for toys.  :-\  I just don't get up that way too often.

It makes much more economic sense to just order my blue boxes directly from Playmobil, online.  Rather than drive an hour AND pay dealer mark-up....I let UPS bring it to me, it's just good dollars and sense. :P
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Gepetto on August 14, 2008, 23:43:55
Well if you ever need a few blisters or are looking for something special I am always willing to pick something up and mail it to someone. I am rather fortunate (I guess) in that I live on what must be a sales territory border. I have a Target and Fred Meyer 1 mi. away and another Target and Fred Meyer 2.5 mi. away with a TRU in between! Also another Target and  2 Fred Meyer within 6 miles if the need arises.



Gepetto  ( I hate it when the spell checker wants to change my name to 'Ghetto'!)
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Rasputin on August 19, 2008, 02:55:53
Ok i just had to go and see this set for my self, i also wanted another 4444 ;). I just opened the chicken dragon mutant and now see why he looks like a chicken. I would look and act like a chicken to if i was about to get in a fight and my arms fell off. These things just do not stay on at all . The slightest motion and they pop off . Well i like him and being the son of an engineer i will not submit to allowing my kid to play with it until i solve this . I do not have my camera so i will explain now and show pic later.

First use a small screw driver to pry out the ball joint inside the dragon .

Second drill a hole through the socket with the wing. This must be directly in the middle of the joint and square to the wing

Third with a larger drill, drill a small recess for - 1 the bolt head & - 2 on the side for the nut  . 

Forth bolt it together . you can use a lock nut or put liquid thread lock . make sure the bolt and nut do not protrude outside of the socket

Fifth snap it back in-place and it will not come out again . ;D

I will do a how to with pictures when my wife gets home from the kids football practice or tomorrow
Title: Re: 5840 new Target set
Post by: Timotheos on August 20, 2008, 11:25:12
Gepetto  ( I hate it when the spell checker wants to change my name to 'Ghetto'!)

Spellchecker always want to change my name "Tim" to "Dickhead". 

Maybe that's the Irish spelling.

I will do a how to with pictures when my wife gets home from the kids football practice or tomorrow

Hey Ras, did you buy two, or unscrew your fix in order to photograph it?  Or was this posting your theory proposal, before actually attempting?  For some reason, the logistical details interest me.  It seems rational that you would buy two, having at least two sons.  On the other hand...

-Tim