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General => News => Topic started by: tahra on November 26, 2016, 19:03:18

Title: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: tahra on November 26, 2016, 19:03:18
Saw this on THAT site..

Is it real?

(https://scontent.flis6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15219656_10154778368776803_4776264975868756312_n.jpg?oh=a19525e278497656680402303396fa82&oe=58FB7C3C)

Tag says Hamleys, 7 GBP (stupid price at least is likely, right?)

Link to the "post" (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154778368776803&set=gm.1312805572073743&type=3&theater), or whatever it's called:

Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: StJohn on November 26, 2016, 19:11:43
Is it real?

I wish I knew! Thanks for sharing, Tahra!

Best wishes
StJohn
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Richard on November 26, 2016, 20:09:46
Tahra,
If the attachment actually works from my cell phone, you can see that the early Playpeople police helmet is a bit different from the one on the "new" London police officer (9237).
Also, the "9237" London policeman is not listed on Hamley's online site. (Of course, it might be a regional offering from Hamley's that's for sale only in the U.K.)
If it's listed on the PCC, it's real. Now that Horst, Andrea and Judith are gone, there's no one left for me to ask.
Regardless, I prefer the original Playmobil helmet created by Louis Marx for Playpeople.
All the best,
Richard
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Junker Jörg on November 26, 2016, 21:45:01
The question was passed on to Klickywelt, where Rotrock and I at once replied: No.

Rotrock refers to the colour of helmet and jacket looking quite hand-painted. My first impression also was thouse colours do look strange, even though I can't tell exactly why.

Apart from that the background (a real world picture) is quite un-playmobilish and the set number gives no concludent result when googled. And finally I'm quite sure I've seen this image before. Must have been some years ago and if I'm not mistaken it then was declared "self made".

Die Frage wurde an die KW weitergereicht, und Rotrock und ich waren spontan der Meinung: Eigenbau. Röckli verweist auf Helm und Hemd, die recht selbstbemalt aussehen. Und ich finde die Farben auch seltsam - auch wenn ich nicht eindeutig sagen kann, weshalb.

Davon abgesehen ist der Hintergrund - ein "echtes" Bild - äußerst ungewöhnlich für Playmobil, und die Packungsnummer ergibt bei der Internetsuche kein einheitliches Ergebnis, was ebenfalls gegen eine "echte" Figur spricht. Davon abgesehen meine ich, das Bild vor ein paar Jahren schon einmal gesehen zu haben, und damals hieß es - wenn ich mich nicht täusche -, das sei ein Eigenbau.

jj:

 
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: tahra on November 26, 2016, 21:59:37
maybe the guy is playing then... Cause he said he just bought four, and also posted a pic of the boxes... On that link for the post...
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: StJohn on November 26, 2016, 22:44:49
If the attachment actually works from my cell phone, you can see that the early Playpeople police helmet is a bit different from the one on the "new" London police officer (9237).

Wouldn't the slightly different helmet be a clue for taking 9237 as a genuine article, though?

Best wishes
StJohn
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Customizer on November 26, 2016, 23:56:06
Hi @all,

first i thought it was a fake but i saw more pictures at Facebook:

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15135726_10154778575916803_2005733015026973624_n.jpg?oh=7d3e93b1f5df6d77128a30c1497a1af3&oe=58FADAA1 (https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15135726_10154778575916803_2005733015026973624_n.jpg?oh=7d3e93b1f5df6d77128a30c1497a1af3&oe=58FADAA1)

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15203117_10154778576151803_4651721511893710223_n.jpg?oh=517e2da1312384ad194e292f91180886&oe=58CB6457 (https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15203117_10154778576151803_4651721511893710223_n.jpg?oh=517e2da1312384ad194e292f91180886&oe=58CB6457)

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15178999_10154778576016803_652841241474519079_n.jpg?oh=80fd38fe230401730917f0a7eeab5028&oe=58C26EC7 (https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15178999_10154778576016803_652841241474519079_n.jpg?oh=80fd38fe230401730917f0a7eeab5028&oe=58C26EC7)

Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154778575916803&set=pcb.1312869148734052&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154778575916803&set=pcb.1312869148734052&type=3&theater)

ENJOY !

Thx Tahra for sharing this !!

greetings

Andi
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Richard on November 27, 2016, 11:10:32
Andi,
Thanks for the Facebook links.
The helmet does not look like it was made from the same plastic as the Playmobil figure. Also, the helmet is not the same colour as the Playmobil figure.
It looks like "Ruben Ferreira" went to a lot of trouble to pretend that this was a "real" Playmobil set.
All the best,
Richard
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: tahra on November 27, 2016, 13:37:46
Well... I think it's real... And I will want a couple. Shame it wasn't a couple of weeks ago. Had friends going to London for Europe.

If it's a fake.. AMAZING WORK!  :P
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Klickteryx on November 27, 2016, 14:01:36


Apart from that the background (a real world picture) is quite un-playmobilish

Playmobil does use real world backgrounds for exclusives though such as the recent 'Heinrich der Löwe' and Goethe sets.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Junker Jörg on November 27, 2016, 19:07:18
Auch Dürer und Luther stehen vor echten Hintergründen - aber es ist irgendwie anders. Ich kann's nicht auf den Punkt bringen, aber es wirkt "gestellter" als auf dem Bobbybild.

Aktueller Stand in der KW: die Skeptiger scheinen in der Mehrzahl, aber es gibt auch Befürworter der Echtheit.

So do Dürer and Luther showing real backgrounds. But still it's different there. Can't tell why exactly, but it's looking more artificial there than on that Bobby-box.

By the way at KW there're acutally more scepticists but also some assuming it to be real.

jj:
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Hadoque on November 27, 2016, 21:14:09
I assume the PCC-team can give us the right answer the coming days?
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: tahra on November 27, 2016, 21:21:41
I assume the PCC-team can give us the right answer the coming days?

Hopefully. Bothers me to find about this on THAT site, from a fellow playmofan.  ::)
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Klickteryx on November 27, 2016, 23:52:06
I agree with the observation that the helmet looks to have different texture to the body, but I've been wrong on these things before.

I much prefer the Playpeople helmet.

I assume Tahra you're mainly excited about this figure because of that rare hair he has.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: tahra on November 28, 2016, 08:28:12
I assume Tahra you're mainly excited about this figure because of that rare hair he has.

( :lmao: )


The hair will GO.  >:(

Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Customizer on November 28, 2016, 09:01:15
Good Morning !!  :wave:

Another Picture on Facebook:

Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Customizer on November 28, 2016, 09:50:23
At the weekend i searched over 1 hour 8} this background, if i want fake a Bobby i need a picture from BigBen.

I dont find the same one, BUT i think this picture comes from Elena Elisseeva.
Elena Elisseeva is a professional stock photographer from Toronto, Canada.
The same sun no clouds but the exact same i dont found.

I think if playmobil need a picture they buy the rights from a phtographer,
i do not think they have their own to travel to London.  :lol:

(http://de.stockfresh.com/thumbs/elenaphoto/125841_br%C3%BCcke-h%C3%A4user-london-stadt-uhr-geb%C3%A4ude.jpg)

http://designerprints.com/shop/greeting+cards/big+ben+clock

Have Fun !!  ;D

greetings

Andi
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: tonguello on November 28, 2016, 11:28:25
I was told it is fake but it is TOO good to be.
I also saw pics of a 40's police car and a classic double decker  :love:
And those ARE fake ....
This figure is in one of those too.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: tonguello on November 28, 2016, 11:33:48
(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb432/tonguello/1882769D-BBD8-4703-8726-6E24ACF96C46_zpserur54wd.jpg) (http://s1205.photobucket.com/user/tonguello/media/1882769D-BBD8-4703-8726-6E24ACF96C46_zpserur54wd.jpg.html)

(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb432/tonguello/9077E317-BBAA-4355-B07A-8960265B9A01_zpsfmvmk9u2.jpg) (http://s1205.photobucket.com/user/tonguello/media/9077E317-BBAA-4355-B07A-8960265B9A01_zpsfmvmk9u2.jpg.html)

Just in case.
I WANT THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on November 28, 2016, 17:34:19
I was told it is fake but it is TOO good to be.
I also saw pics of a 40's police car and a classic double decker  :love:
And those ARE fake ....
This figure is in one of those too.

No, it's a modern taxi, not a 40's police car.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: The_Mad_Hadder on November 28, 2016, 17:43:14

(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb432/tonguello/1882769D-BBD8-4703-8726-6E24ACF96C46_zpserur54wd.jpg) (http://s1205.photobucket.com/user/tonguello/media/1882769D-BBD8-4703-8726-6E24ACF96C46_zpserur54wd.jpg.html)

Maybe if you were under the influence you might think you were in the above when in actuality you were in a police car...
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: tonguello on November 28, 2016, 22:35:59
No, it's a modern taxi, not a 40's police car.
oops right.
that's what I wanted it to be  :lol:
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Oliver on November 28, 2016, 22:39:35
I was away this weekend, but I am London based and can try and head to Hamley's to find out if they're there.

The other Hamley's exclusive was £6, but if you were going out of your way to fake it you would know that
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: tonguello on November 29, 2016, 10:57:38
it is real!!!
spanish friend got 15!!! :o
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: sunshai on November 29, 2016, 11:05:11
Sorry for the ignorance, when it is "unreal" what does it mean?
who manufactures the "unreal" sets? who do they sell them to?
Another thing: I saw Playmobil figures sold in chinese site (As Aliexpress) as new,
they look only partially equipped. Are they real or fake?
thanks.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Jay on November 30, 2016, 04:24:21
"Series UK" is spelled wrong on the boxes.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: GrahamB on November 30, 2016, 08:04:47
'Serie' is German for series, though why is it not in English?

It's a while since I've been up to that London, but I've never seen double decker buses with flashing lights at the top of the front.

Who is Juan in the colour code panel?

Why is the set number so different from normal?

The two vehicles are fakes. Nice but fakes.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: tahra on November 30, 2016, 08:39:46
Those two vehicles ARE "fanmade", and not recent...

I don't think they even aim to be taken as real - like you said, Graham..
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on November 30, 2016, 08:47:18
And the 23 doesn't appear to go to Hyde Park.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: GrahamB on November 30, 2016, 10:17:42
Or even Hyde Parc!
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Customizer on November 30, 2016, 15:30:47
First Bobby at Ebay !  :lol:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/302153145819 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/302153145819)

NO FAKE !!  8-)

Greetings

Andi
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on November 30, 2016, 15:55:32
But nowhere on the box sides shown, does it say where it is made or how to pronounce Playmobil, nothing about recycling either.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: tonguello on November 30, 2016, 16:37:16
The PCC confirmed it is REAL and it is a Hamleys exclusive...
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on November 30, 2016, 16:46:14
That settles it then.  Thanks for the confirmation, Gaston.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Tiermann on November 30, 2016, 22:58:37
Well since it's real I need a few. I love that helmet.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Jay on December 01, 2016, 02:28:45
Kind of expensive, but with the exchange rate, not horrible at the moment. $7.50 US right now.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Klickteryx on December 01, 2016, 03:51:53
Sorry for the ignorance, when it is "unreal" what does it mean?
Fake, not produced by geobra.
Unreal as a word in English though is used in the sense of 'amazing', 'I can't believe it'. 
'Not real' would be how you'd say something was fake or imaginary. 

Quote
Another thing: I saw Playmobil figures sold in chinese site (As Aliexpress) as new,
they look only partially equipped. Are they real or fake?
thanks.
Are they those random figures? You get x number of random figures which may or may not have anything to do with the pile of klickies shown in the listing. I never wanted to try my luck on those auctions.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Hadoque on December 02, 2016, 02:24:45
Hmm.... Anyone in the UK able and willing to organise a collective order? 
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: GrahamB on December 02, 2016, 09:01:16
I might, but only if they do online orders. This set is not currently showing in Hamleys webshop.
I will try ringing them.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: skypurr on December 02, 2016, 10:23:55
I looked online Graham and found the same but someone told me they were there last weekend and they had loads!
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on December 02, 2016, 14:08:18
If you do an order, Graham, I'll have three please.  One or two are for a collector in Germany.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on December 02, 2016, 15:52:08
Here's an update on buying from Hamley's.

The figure doesn't appear on their website and, indeed, when I tried just now to get on to it it came up with "Service unavailable".

I've had an exchange with Customer Services (support@hamleysoflondon.freshdesk.com) who have been very helpful and told me that the figures are in stock, £7.50 each or two for £12, plus £9.99 postage.  This is higher than postage from their website, but there doesn't seem to be any choice. 

Customer services gave me their 'phone number - 03717041977 - and I rang them and they then put me through to the sales floor.  I have ordered four, one for me, one for an overseas member, and two spare.  I am offering these to Graham and Skypurr if they want them.

Quick decisions seemed necessary, so I hope I have not offended anyone.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on December 02, 2016, 15:53:45
Hmm.... Anyone in the UK able and willing to organise a collective order?

Hi Hadoque, I will make if five, so one for you, too.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on December 02, 2016, 16:47:39
UPDATE:

I've got six coming and they will be with me on Wednesday next week.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: GrahamB on December 02, 2016, 16:59:15
Thanks Playmofire! I also had a conversation with Hamley's Customer Services today and asked about the possibility of buying 50+ of this set. They do have sufficient stocks. The current special offer price is (as you said) two for £12 and this offer may be valid for a couple of weeks yet. I hinted at further discounts for large orders but none was forthcoming. What I forgot to ask about was shipping and I wonder how many sets they would despatch for £9.99?

I am willing to make a large order and ship to Playmofriends worldwide. If anyone is interested please tell me in the topic here (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?board=11.0)
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on December 02, 2016, 17:13:37
Certainly, six sets fall within the £9.99, but £50......?  maybe yes as they are light enough.

Presumably, you won't want one from me if you going ahead with a bulk order. 
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: GrahamB on December 02, 2016, 17:52:39
Thank you Playmofire but I think I will order my own (though I will have to wait a bit longer :'() as I want several! (Mind you I prefer the older Playpeople helmet!).
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Oliver on December 02, 2016, 23:12:44
Are we expecting this to be a very limited run? The last Hamley's Special - the soldier in the Bearskin - was around for a while, though I'd have thought it was much more saleable (Are policemen in those helmets considered a very British thing abroad? I'm not sure I've ever seen a policeman wearing one in real life)
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Junker Jörg on December 03, 2016, 07:10:51
(Are policemen in those helmets considered a very British thing abroad? I'm not sure I've ever seen a policeman wearing one in real life)
Sounds as if you,'re a Brit? I would definitely say it's very British in general, yes. Even though the form displayed here seems a bit 'flat' to me, reminding me more to a topee. Guess it's like a Pickelhaube (kaiser helmet) being considered very German though I've never seen one in real life  8-).

Ja, eindeutig britisch - auch wenn's ein wenig mehr nach einem Tropenhelm aussieht, so von der leicht angeflachten Form her. Aber das ist wohl wie mit der Pickelhaube. Die ist auch typisch deutsch, und ich hab noch nie eine in echt gesehen  8-).

jj:
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on December 03, 2016, 07:28:40
The helmet isn't the correct shape, it's too flat.  The mock-up box of the London bus with the policeman standing alongside it has a more correct shape for the helmet.

Nowadays, however, police in the UK wear a flat, military style cap, basically because there is little patrolling the beat on foot today, it is done in a car and the old style helmet cannot be warn in a car as it is too tall.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Ismene on December 03, 2016, 07:55:10
He's cute, but 6 pounds is a bit much.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Klickteryx on December 03, 2016, 09:35:56
Are we expecting this to be a very limited run? The last Hamley's Special - the soldier in the Bearskin - was around for a while, though I'd have thought it was much more saleable (Are policemen in those helmets considered a very British thing abroad? I'm not sure I've ever seen a policeman wearing one in real life)

I think they only wear them for events like protests and other large gatherings.
Good action shot from the Notting Hill carnival this year.
It also shows how the brim slopes down, particularly at the front and back.

(http://p2.ifengimg.com/a/2016_36/953182b0571d078_size191_w962_h641.jpg)
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on December 03, 2016, 09:41:55
Yes, I'm sure you're right there, because the raised ridge on the top of the helmet is especially strong to prevent head injuries.   
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: skypurr on December 03, 2016, 10:19:11
Gordon if you now have two spare I will take those and pass one to a friend.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on December 03, 2016, 10:26:31
Gordon if you now have two spare I will take those and pass one to a friend.

I'll have to do a count up, Elaine, and check; in my old age I'm losing track!  I'll get back to you.
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: Junker Jörg on December 22, 2016, 08:18:04
Cheers to my kind supplier. There's no doubt any more, it's a real one...  :lol:

He just flew in yesterday...
(https://abload.de/img/bobby1qau4w.jpg)

...and despite my habbit of waiting till christmas I couldn't but unwrap the lad!

(https://abload.de/img/bobby225u1v.jpg)
He's a real highlight in my model-blue-lights-corner  :).

Dank eines lieben Einkäufers vor Ort bleibt mir nichts als fröhlich anzuerkennen: Der Typ ist echt - und er ist ein echter Hingucker in meiner Blaulichtecke  :love:.

jj:
Title: Re: 9237 English cop - real?
Post by: playmofire on December 22, 2016, 09:42:49
He fits in well, Stefan.