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Creative => Customs Gallery => Dioramas & Buildings => Topic started by: macgayver on August 30, 2015, 20:41:29
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Finally I did it
(http://www.macgayverplaymobil.be/fotos%202015/02.jpg)
(http://www.macgayverplaymobil.be/fotos%202015/03.jpg)
(http://www.macgayverplaymobil.be/fotos%202015/04.jpg)
(http://www.macgayverplaymobil.be/fotos%202015/06.jpg)
by night
(http://www.macgayverplaymobil.be/fotos%202015/07.jpg)
(http://www.macgayverplaymobil.be/fotos%202015/08.jpg)
(http://www.macgayverplaymobil.be/fotos%202015/09.jpg)
enjoy
all th best
Michael
Macgayver
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10 years collecting
+/- 500 parts
more then 500 kabelbinder
3,3 meter high
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Oh my goodness, that's amazing! :o Congrats on finishing such a complicated project! Stunning!
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:omg:
Congratulations, Michael. That is a HUGE amount of those parts you got together. Building the Eifeltower with them is a cool idea!
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That is incredible Michael, :omg:
Congratulations on completing such an amazing project. You must be very proud of what you have achieved. :wow:
Elaine
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There are NO WORDS to accurately describe how AWESOME this build is!
BRAVO!!!!
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Mind blowing, Michael! I take my hat off to a master custom maker! :wow: :wow: :wow:
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INCREDIBLE !!!
All these years Geobra has had the perfect Playmobil construction toy right under their noses and didn't even seem to know it.
Well done, Michael! Well done!
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It's beautiful Michael!
Congratulations on completing your project.
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Thank you for the compliments
@ Tim and Richard
Maybe you remember, when we grounded the PCC we went to Zindorf to defend the wishes from the collectors
One major point on the agenda was , what with steck, we want to build with Playmo
The answer from the director devellopment was: If you wanna build, buy Lego
I personally took that pretty hard
My first answer was Versailles
This is my second answer
The parts were actually collected to make a big trainstation
All the best
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Congratz, it looks amazing 8-)
My avatar thought so too:
(http://i.imgur.com/RZKjo0i.jpg)
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A stunning achievement.
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@ Tim and Richard
Maybe you remember, when we grounded the PCC we went to Zindorf to defend the wishes from the collectors
One major point on the agenda was , what with steck, we want to build with Playmo
The answer from the director devellopment was: If you wanna build, buy Lego
Believe it or not, Michael, even Horst couldn't get them to change their minds on this!
I was sitting with Horst in his home in Florida. We had a long discussion about how important "construction" toys are for children beginning with their first blocks. Horst absolutely agreed! He picked up the phone and called Andrea at home. (It was probably about 1:00 o'clock in the morning in Germany.) Unfortunately, we weren't on speakerphone, so I don't know what Andrea said to Horst. Horst didn't seem very happy about what she said. When Horst hung up the phone, he apologized to me and said, "Maybe later, Richard." I knew Horst well enough not to ask him a bunch of questions about the phone call. I also knew if Horst wanted to talk about it again he would. He never did.
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First of all congratulations!
It is an amazing construction! :love:
:wow:
One major point on the agenda was , what with steck, we want to build with Playmo
The answer from the director devellopment was: If you wanna build, buy Lego
That answer you guys got was so rude! >:( Is it accurate? did the really answer that?
Who was development director at the time? :hmm:
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The answer from the director devellopment was: If you wanna build, buy Lego
How rude! Was that Herr Hane?
With Lego you can build magnificent things too, but whole dioramas look awful with those silly yellow figures.
Playmobil is so attractive because it is much more realistic then Lego (especially the figurers and all the accessories, interiors etc.) and comes closer to modelling while still remaining a toy.
My first answer was Versailles
Though the Eifeltower is splendid as well, Versailles still remains my favourite!
To me Versailles is the most awesome customwork you ever created, with regard to the small details as well as the huge scale :love:
I still regularly take a look at the pics I took in Templeuve a few years ago.... Imho your Versailles should be on display in a Museum!
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Thank you for the compliments
It was GORGEOUS! :love: Amazing work.. and.. well.. HUGE.
It was great meeting you too :)
Maybe you remember, when we grounded the PCC we went to Zindorf to defend the wishes from the collectors
One major point on the agenda was , what with steck, we want to build with Playmo
The answer from the director devellopment was: If you wanna build, buy Lego
Are you SERIOUS?!
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Believe it or not, Michael, even Horst couldn't get them to change their minds on this!
I never guessed you got Horst to support our desire for additional Steck and construction-building, so thanks for the anekdote Richard.
Was he still head of the company at the time, or just (major) shareholder and was Andrea CEO and decisionmaker?
:!: Let´s kidnap the remains of Beck & Horst and hurry them both to the Krankenstein Institution, they must be resurrected asap!
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Great job!
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Impressive! :) It looks great.
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I don't want to go too far off topic, but Michael is extrapolating a little from the presentation response. His mention of Lego is not a direct quote from anyone. They certainly were not interested in pursuing the building aspect. Herr Hane is who we met from development. Andrea is Andrea Schauer who was director of operations at the time. My impression is that she was behind SystemX in a big way and got burned by the negative response to it and the fact that parents didn't want to buy large buildings that had to be assembled. Parents just didn't see Playmobil as something the kids put together as part of the fun of the toy, but expect it to be something that can be quickly assembled out of the box for quick play. This is in fact a point of difference that helps keep Playmobil different from Lego.
I will point out that since those meetings much of the back catalog of Steck buildings have been rereleased through add ons. That wouldn't have happened if we collectors hadn't made the noise we have over these years and backed that up with our purchases of the released items starting with the red house.
There has been a lot of change in top management in the last two years. New directors of operations, and a new head to development. They are certainly aware of what we do especially at big events like this one. Keep doing what we are doing and drop the phrase building system into comment threads at PCC and elsewhere when you can. We are in this for the long haul as collectors.
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Sorry Tim if it's of topic but,
It were wordly his words , I will never forget
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@ Thara & Birdie
It was very nice meeting you
Nen echte van Aaaantwaarpe , it was nice speaking my motherlanguage again
Too bad we couldn't talk that much
I hope you enjoyed your stay at Luxplaymodays
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The conversation with him was half in German or more so I may not have understood everything. Hopefully things can change more now that Hane is gone
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Sorry Tim if it's of topic but,
It were wordly his words , I will never forget
I don't even know what to say to that.
Makes one wonder. What IS playmobil's goal?
(sorry Macgayver, way OT :-[ )
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@ Thara & Birdie
It was very nice meeting you
Nen echte van Aaaantwaarpe , it was nice speaking my motherlanguage again
Too bad we couldn't talk that much
I hope you enjoyed your stay at Luxplaymodays
;D We sure did!! And so much fun to realize you're from around here too :) I showed Tahra and her friends all around 't stad ;)
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What IS playmobil's goal?
Articulated knees and elbows. Guaranteed to appear within five years.
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Makes one wonder. What IS playmobil's goal?
Ganz ehrlich? Geld verdienen (von dem die Angestellten und ihre Familien dann leben) 8-). Und wenn ich mir ansehe, wie fieselig diese roten und gelben SysX-Knubbelich sind, kann ich Eltern und Kinder verstehen, die sich sehr über die jetzigen Fertigbauten freuen. Playmobil als Spiel- nicht Bastelzeug eben.
To be honest: making money (and granting employees and their families a living) ;). And considering those tiny red and yellow SysX-micro-connectors I only too well do understand parents and children appreciating ready-to-play not first-to-be-fiddled-with buildings.
jj:
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That Eiffeltower looks fantastic! What a great idea! But which building part have you used for it ?(I'm sorry, I'm not very familiar with the buildings.. due to lack of space I mainly collect klickies)
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To be honest: making money(...)
That one I know FOR SURE it isn't. Or at least, not our dirty foreign money.
And considering those tiny red and yellow SysX-micro-connectors I only too well do understand parents and children appreciating ready-to-play not first-to-be-fiddled-with buildings.
Of course, cause it's not FUN! Building with systemX is an horrid experience. With Steck, the building process was part of the fun.
That Eiffeltower looks fantastic! What a great idea! But which building part have you used for it ?(I'm sorry, I'm not very familiar with the buildings.. due to lack of space I mainly collect klickies)
Well, a lot of half height foundations, that's for sure ;) (think 7400!)
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Cool. A recent discussion I can fully jump in. :)
First on topic: Michael, the tower is amazing. I remember you talking about this, but seeing you doing it is stunning as always!
(saw the pictures on facebook first, and maybe those made me want to come back!)
Second off topic: I also participated in this meeting and not sure about the exact wording, but this discussion about Playmo as a construction toy also hit me hard. I remember Andrea Schauer energetically explaining to us that Horst Brandstätter and her were trying hard to enter the market with Playmobil as a construction toy since the seventies but failed, because kids preferred LEGOs to Playmobil.
Richard, I am afraid even Horst - when he woke her up at night - got this story about how they lost this war over and over again... ...and had this discussion over and over again. ;)
best,
socrates
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It seems to me that with just a touch of that famous German engineering aptitude Playmo could have pioneered an expanded modular Steck system that would have allowed construction of entire medieval cities with great variation from just a small number of pieces. It would have appealled more to the modeller than the constructor, as PM does today.
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L**o is a pure construction toy imho, the figures and accessories are absolute ugly as hell.
Playmobil could/should combine the best of everything: play + imagination + construction.
Though steck is awesome, it might be less useful to the company for expansion to the modern themes as it would require many more moulds to create parts for modern buildings as well.
So I can imagine why they came up with System-X at the time; many parts that can be used for all kind of shaped constructions/houses and in classic as well as modern themes. But the large amount of red and yellow connectors one has to insert to build something absorbs a lot of time, most probably too much time for most kids/parents.
They should have come up with an improved System-X-v2 instead of choosing the path of those silly half-buildings they include in sets these days...
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L**o is a pure construction toy imho, the figures and accessories are absolute ugly as hell.
True that. Just set any two comparable figures beside one another and it's immediately apparent. A L*go Roman legionary against a Playmo legionary: the winner is clear as day.
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And actually to me it's not just the Lego figures and accessories. That's why I still believe Playmobil has potential as a construction toy as well as a toy to play with. The Eifel Tower and Versailles and all those fantastic constructions achieved with Playmobil prove it: it can work as a construction toy and look a thousand times better.
As long as it's relatively easy to put together. And PAINLESS for the fingertips.
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And PAINLESS for the fingertips.
And the feet! Ever stepped on a L*go?
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And the feet! Ever stepped on a L*go?
Playmo hurts as much as L*go ;D
@ Richard: great to see you still around , I still cannot PM you
@ Amir : great to see you still around too
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as for the discussion on construction :
Steck :
is an amazing system , afther 40 years of expierience building I still find new possibilities
those who created this system were genious
pos : It is simple, you have not many different parts to build with, easy to find second hand
neg : you need a lot , it is heavy therefore expensive
System X 1ste gen :
Also an amazing system with lots of possibilities wich are still to explore
When you digg well on the internet you find amazing constructions with Sys-X
Pos : you have many many different parts , a lot is to explore with that System , Amazing buildings and constructions
Neg : you need a lot ,it is also heavy so expensive, hard to find , you need Direct service if you want to build
System X 2nd gen :
Impossible to build with
Pos : it has oft charming parts for system x first gen
Neg : as said, Impossible to build or to expand
Bottom line is: Playmobil will never return to the old system because it is too expensive.
compare an old set in weight and contains with a current set and contains
compare the prices they cost and once costed
Once someone told me : " Playmobil is Plastic , is Petrol , is Money "
I think that says it all
Playmobil is a company that is there to make profit and feed +/- 3600 people
all the best
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" Playmobil is Plastic , is Petrol , is Money "
Oil's getting cheaper every day...
Aber der Ölpreis sinkt doch zur Zeit ständig... :lol:
jj:
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The good old days, when furniture was made of massive wood, Playmo of massive plastic and jeans were thicker then toiletpaper :sorrow:
Someone needs to build a timemachine (weither out of Steck or System-X)...
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The good old days, when furniture was made of massive wood, Playmo of massive plastic and jeans were thicker then toiletpaper :sorrow:
Soooo alt bist Du schon - that's how old you are?!? :o
:lol:
jj:
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Soooo alt bist Du schon - that's how old you are?!? :o
:lol:
jj:
Well, third stop on tram 4 already... The thing stated slow but now it keeps speeding up. 8} Good I didn´t take the train ;D
Also, schon die dritte Haltestelle von Strassenbahn 4 .... Der Start war langsam aber jetzt fährt das Ding immer schneller... 8} Glücklich habe ich nicht den Zug genommen ;D
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Whouaaa. so big !!!.. like the real one actualy !!.. very great job Mac !! as usualy !!
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@Hadoque
(http://www.chatworld.de/cw/emonics/magsukeks.gif)
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jj:
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Wow, lights and everything, very impressive.
I think if geobra produced more buildings like the old medieval steck, it could tap into the gaming market. 54mm, even 28mm heroic can use steck houses.
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Madness. Those parts always seemed to be in high demand and often went for (still do) lots of money on eBay. Now I know why. :lol:
Also, Kabelbinder = zip ties. In case anyone wondered.
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Wonderful build! Simply amazing what can be achieved with imagination and access to the right parts. :heart:
@ Richard: great to see you still around , I still cannot PM you
I checked this before and the settings showed no reason why the PMs wouldn't be getting through. :eh?:
I've just tweaked something else to see if that will fix it. :crossed:
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Wonderful build! Simply amazing what can be achieved with imagination and access to the right parts. :heart:
I checked this before and the settings showed no reason why the PMs wouldn't be getting through. :eh?:
I've just tweaked something else to see if that will fix it. :crossed:
Thank you my dear :)