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General => News => Topic started by: Macruran on February 11, 2014, 08:50:39
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Go take a look at the 2014 catalog on playmobil.de. Or check the Christmas section of the Online-Shop.
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O.K., back? HOW ABOUT THOSE NATIVITY AND MAGI SETS?
These are PM's third versions of both.
When it comes to the figures, the second versions were the best, though the third finally gets the baby right and Mary's veil from the first and third are superior to the red one from the second. I mean, Mary in red, it doesn't really sit right. But Mary's blue and white togs from the second are on point. New Mary's togs aren't too bad but she's back in makeup, which is just wrong.
First version Joseph makes a better Jesus, third version Joseph - don't like his haircut or robe as much as second.
I like the new shepherd but I will be going with the old shepherd plus the boy from the micronativity set, there has to be an old shepherd and a boy. I do like the new shepherd's stick.
The third version kings just feel wrong to me. Their robe patterns seem off. And one of them in a pschent? IMPOSSIBLE. The Magi came FROM THE EAST; Egypt is southwest of Judea.
The stable is finally solid though. Why it wasn't always so I'll never understand. This is one set that will potentially be brought out annually for years, so why not make it all solid from the get go?
I do like the palm tree.
Summary: I'll get the new Nativity and mix and match to produce a set that I put out. The new Magi? Not sure yet. Maybe get them as regents of satrapies for my Roman Empirette.
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New Mary's togs aren't too bad but she's back in makeup, which is just wrong.
She's expecting important visitors, give the woman a break :P
Do you really prefer the newest baby Jesus? It looks so weird.
I do love the new solid stable with the wooden boards in front of the window. Lots of possibilities for it in a wide range of themes!
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It looks to me like there is an actual star in the new one too, rather than just a backdrop. Does anyone else think so? I agree this baby Jesus is better. Looks more like a newborn.
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She's expecting important visitors, give the woman a break :P
:D
Do you really prefer the newest baby Jesus? It looks so weird.
I do and I already use that baby from the micronativity in the 2nd version nativity set when I put it out at Christmas. It's swaddled, as it should be. The giant baby is too big. If I used that one I'd have to have Mary passed out on the floor.
I do love the new solid stable with the wooden boards in front of the window. Lots of possibilities for it in a wide range of themes!
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It looks to me like there is an actual star in the new one too, rather than just a backdrop. Does anyone else think so?
The picture is a little ambiguous but I am confident that the star is plastic, as it should always have been. The only thing missing is a tiny ledge for the angel to stand on!
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. . . The picture is a little ambiguous but I am confident that the star is plastic, as it should always have been. The only thing missing is a tiny ledge for the angel to stand on!
Sadly, I think the star is just part of the printed cardboard background. I do appreciate the "real" stable though - a big improvement! :)
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Sadly, I think the star is just part of the printed cardboard background.
I have to disagree. Examine the picture closely: http://www.playmobil.de/on/demandware.store/Sites-DE-Site/de_DE/Product-Show?pid=5588&showSpareParts=false&cgid=Weihnachten#cgid=Weihnachten&start=7 - there doesn't seem to be any cardboard background, the star looks 3D, and there is almost certainly a clear plastic support for the star.
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The giant baby is too big. If I used that one I'd have to have Mary passed out on the floor.
Fair point :lol:
Sadly, I think the star is just part of the printed cardboard background.
It looks like cardboard printing (on the photo's in the brochure), but actually the pictures from the International Toy Fair show that the star has a shadow. So it isn't painted on the backdrop, at least. :hmm: Whether the seperate star is made of plastic or cardboard, is very difficult to see. I'd agree with bonnie and say it's plastic. It's pretty thick and has carvings in it.
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From the contents, with google translate:
Figures: one woman, one man, one shepherd, one angel, one baby; animals: 1 donkey, 1 ox, one little goat, 1 lamb, 2 birds; Accessories: 1 stall with base plate, palm tree and plants, 1 walking stick, 1 pitcher, 1 pot, 1 green fodder, 1 straw, 1 angel scepter, 1 bucket, 1 shooting star, 1 fireplace, 1 crib, 1 bag, 1 box including lantern, 1 basket, 2 x chuck piston, 1 stool , 1 bank, 1 straw broom
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I wonder what a chuck piston is?
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I wonder what a chuck piston is?
Have no idea. Keep in mind auto translation is tricksy... false... :P
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I think they mean the food thingies for the animals (futter > fodder)
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The giant baby is too big. If I used that one I'd have to have Mary passed out on the floor.
:lol: :lol: :lol: That cracked me up!
I wonder what a chuck piston is?
Who knows!? Could it be the corn cobs, maybe?
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I have to disagree. Examine the picture closely: http://www.playmobil.de/on/demandware.store/Sites-DE-Site/de_DE/Product-Show?pid=5588&showSpareParts=false&cgid=Weihnachten#cgid=Weihnachten&start=7 - there doesn't seem to be any cardboard background, the star looks 3D, and there is almost certainly a clear plastic support for the star.
Thanks for the link, Macruran - I have to agree with your disagreement! :D I was looking at the older nativity set on the .de site and I completely missed the new set as I didn't think that there would be 2 nativity sets at the same time. My bad. :-[
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I wish that they would redo the sheep now to match the new lamb... I think the Shepherd's flock needs an upgrade ;)
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Maybe we can use the little baby for Christmas and the big baby for Epiphany. :lol:
I want to get the wise men because I'm on a quest to have a whole troop of wise men. It's harder to justify a 2nd nativity, but that stable is tempting (I have the 1st version with the cardboard stable). The lantern looks a bit anachronistic.
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Yes the lantern is definitely an anachronism, they would have done better to have an light-up cooking fire or something.
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Maybe next time the wise men will have ipods to appeal to the "target consumer" :lol:
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Who knows!? Could it be the corn cobs, maybe?
Wait a minute - corn cobs?!?!? How much more anachronistic could they possibly get?
Did you ever think "Why doesn't PM just hire me as product consultant. I'd work for room and board!"
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Yes the lantern is definitely an anachronism, they would have done better to have an light-up cooking fire or something.
They probably would have had what looks sort of like a genie lamp, for lack of a better way to describe it.
Wait a minute - corn cobs?!?!? How much more anachronistic could they possibly get?
Did you ever think "Why doesn't PM just hire me as product consultant. I'd work for room and board!"
I know!!! But remember, they aren't really corn cobs, they're chuck pistons, so that makes it ok. :P
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I wish they'd stop putting the only gorgeous peasants available in the same repeating set - an expensive one. The "real" stable is a lot better than the card one, but still, more stuff we could do without - besides ANOTHER winged kid, like stars, stupid blinky winkies, cribs of straw, and a freaking palm tree! Besides, and though I like cowies - or bullies (the bull kind! ;) ) - and donkeys, I could do without the added price increase. Also, why can't they make a separate set with the shepherd (an even MORE gorgeous one this time :love: )?!
End rant. For now. ;D
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I like only the first version.I had bought the first one but with the addition of 3 wise men in the same box,about 25 euros before 4-5 years.
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They probably would have had what looks sort of like a genie lamp, for lack of a better way to describe it.
Yes, in fact that's what I put out with them last Christmas, a gold one from some treasure pack. It would be difficult to light though.
I wish they'd stop putting the only gorgeous peasants available in the same repeating set ...[rant continues]
In my planned "collectors department" of PM, almost everything would be direct service individual parts.
Here's something funny: when I put "chuck piston" into Goog translate ENG>GER, I get "Futterkolben". But when I put "Futterkolben" back GER>ENG, I get...."butt feed". !!!!!!
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In my planned "collectors department" of PM, almost everything would be direct service individual parts.
Where do we vote?
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They probably would have had what looks sort of like a genie lamp, for lack of a better way to describe it.
Exactly, like a teapot with a flame. I've only seen the genie lamp in gold though, which is quite absurd for a carpenter's lamp. I'd be okay with a plastic flame. Battery-operated things just raise the price.
I'm glad the angel is a brunette. I already have a bunch of blond angels. All in all, I do like this 3rd version much better than the 2nd, which I passed over.
It would be nice if we could buy the figures separately. With all the shepherds and Josephs, we'd be halfway to having the 12 apostles. :lol:
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On the subject of "chuck pistons": I realized as I was playing dinosaurs this evening that I already have one of these parts! It came in a dinosaur set, as part of an imaginary prehistoric plant. I snapped a couple of pics of the part.
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy289/bonniebeth2/3489455A-6D10-486D-B079-ACECAB7D1BF6.jpg) (http://s800.photobucket.com/user/bonniebeth2/media/3489455A-6D10-486D-B079-ACECAB7D1BF6.jpg.html)
(http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy289/bonniebeth2/A8A85960-6DF1-4DB5-BCE0-5146FDFABD3D.jpg) (http://s800.photobucket.com/user/bonniebeth2/media/A8A85960-6DF1-4DB5-BCE0-5146FDFABD3D.jpg.html)
Sorry it's a bit fuzzy. Anyway, it could be a corn cob but it really could be another kind of head of grain, too, like barley or wheat. It's pretty ambiguous. So perhaps not an anachronism. But it still doesn't explain why it is a chuck piston or butt feed. :lol:
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Where do we vote?
I'll need some major capital to pitch the idea to PM, so message me for info on how to transfer funds to my war chest.
Thanks for that clear picture of the butt feed. I am going to call it barley or something to preserve my sense of historical appropriateness. And I think I'll look for a good LED light that stays on for more than 5 minutes because I like having the nativity lit up at night.
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Compared to the 1st and 2nd versions of the Nativity set, it seems this time they've left out some more useful parts;
the cooking kettle and the sticks to hang it over the campfire are missing...
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Yeah but that was unrealistic. Mary and Joseph wouldn't have had a giant pot like that.
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Yeah but that was unrealistic. Mary and Joseph wouldn't have had a giant pot like that.
Why unrealistic? Shouldn't they be able to prepare some food, or at least cook water? I'd think hot (cooked)water might come handy when giving birth in a an animal shelter..
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They were poor and had to put up in a stable. How could they afford a giant metal pot? That's something the Roman Army would have, not a couple of villagers. Mary and Joseph would have cooked some flatbread on a hot stone.
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Yeah, I don't actually know for sure, but I would think a metal pot would have been very expensive. They probably would have used clay vessels.
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Note that not the giant plastic star or the girl angel flying around is a problem, but the cooking pot is :lol:
If I remember my Sunday school lessons correclty it wasn't exactly that they were poor. All the inns were full because everyone had travelled there for the king's census. They could have carried a metal pot from their home or something, carried by the donkey.
I'm rooting for the metal pot, because I liked it in the second version of the set :)
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Note that not the giant plastic star or the girl angel flying around is a problem, but the cooking pot is :lol:
As Vince Noir said, it's all about context.
I'd accept a metal pot but a smaller one. That one's big enough to feed a troop of Magi.
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In my set up, I've always given the pot to the shepherd. It never occurred to me that Mary and Joseph would haul what appears to a massive cast iron cauldron all the way there.
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In my set up, I've always given the pot to the shepherd. It never occurred to me that Mary and Joseph would haul what appears to a massive cast iron cauldron all the way there.
I've done the same because the Shepherd would be in a stationary place (and thus the large pot would be good for them.) I don't see Mary and Joseph carrying such a large pot with them.
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But would the shepherds be in a stationary place? Figure they're out in the fields in the evening, pasturing their flock. Otherwise why are the animals with them? They wouldn't have dragged a big pot out. They'd have a small cold meal, bread and olives, maybe some cheese.
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Note that not the giant plastic star or the girl angel flying around is a problem, but the cooking pot is :lol:
Agree :lol:
Since the set is just a bunch of great parts to me, I'd rather have the big caldron too.. not that I don't have them already :-[, but they're so nice.. :)
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But would the shepherds be in a stationary place? Figure they're out in the fields in the evening, pasturing their flock. Otherwise why are the animals with them? They wouldn't have dragged a big pot out. They'd have a small cold meal, bread and olives, maybe some cheese.
He's bringing the animals back to the stables, where he already has a cauldron set up so he can get straight to making dinner once he gets there. ;)
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But the stable where Joseph and Mary were staying was not the shepherds' stable! They travelled to find it after being told about it by angels.
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But the stable where Joseph and Mary were staying was not the shepherds' stable! They travelled to find it after being told about it by angels.
Angels and "Magic" stars are cool-no questions asked, but a big cookpot isn't?
Jezus Christ!!! (pun intended...) :lol: ;)
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Angels and "Magic" stars are cool-no questions asked, but a big cookpot isn't?
Jezus Christ!!! (pun intended...) :lol: ;)
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I really wish they'd split the darn thing.. Though.. this time that wouldn't help. And I guess then people could just buy the "core" and leave the shepherd...
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Angels and "Magic" stars are cool-no questions asked, but a big cookpot isn't?
Jezus Christ!!! (pun intended...) :lol: ;)
It's like someone once said about writing science fiction. You get ONE major violation of mundane reality, and everything else has to conform to that violation or to mundane reality. So, given the incarnation of a god, magic stars, angels, and wise men from the east all follow. But giant, EXPENSIVE cooking pots? No dice.
Similarly, the new Asian theme gets to have intelligent dragons, but gravity and everything else still works as it does in this world.
Speaking of Asia, maybe one day PM will do a Birth of Buddha set. Now that's a weird one! No shepherds though.
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But the stable where Joseph and Mary were staying was not the shepherds' stable! They travelled to find it after being told about it by angels.
I know, but that's the best explanation I can come up with for a massive cast iron pot.
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Angels and big stars are standard nativity items. They're practically required. Cast iron pots - not so much. I really wish they would give us a man angel though.
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Angels and big stars are standard nativity items. They're practically required. Cast iron pots - not so much.
Iron cookpot mistery solved!!!
A few of my Roman legionaries just came forward and confessed to have discarded the old thing "in an old shed", apparently they found it to heavy to carry around anymore... ;D
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Iron cookpot mistery solved!!!
A few of my Roman legionaries just came forward and confessed to have discarded the old thing "in an old shed", apparently they found it to heavy to carry around anymore... ;D
Oh good! I can rest easy now that I know that!
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"Yesterday, after 218 years of intense debate, the United Council of Earthly Scientists & Archeologists finally agreed that the Holy Grail is in fact Mary's cooking pot, which she had used for many years and had passed on to Jesus on his 18th birthday."
Source: The 9 'o clock NBBC Mircroburst-Newsflash, with James Paddock Junior, 29th February A.D. 2232
(jammed for citizens of the Chinese Galaxian Empire).
;D
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Iron cookpot mistery solved!!!
A few of my Roman legionaries just came forward and confessed to have discarded the old thing "in an old shed", apparently they found it to heavy to carry around anymore... ;D
Bloody Romans! What have they ever done for us?
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"Yesterday, after 218 years of intense debate, the United Council of Earthly Scientists & Archeologists finally agreed that the Holy Grail is in fact Mary's cooking pot, which she had used for many years and had passed on to Jesus on his 18th birthday."
Source: The 9 'o clock NBBC Mircroburst-Newsflash, with James Paddock Junior, 29th February A.D. 2232
(jammed for citizens of the Chinese Galaxian Empire).
;D
Hooray for Klickyleaks!
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Good job Mary for encouraging her teenage son to cook for himself! :lol:
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Good job Mary for encouraging her teenage son to cook for himself! :lol:
I heard his mom had to give it to him so he would be more attractive to the opposit sex. A man with his own pot is a hot commodity, especially seeing as he just sat around with his friends and talked all day. He once was an aspiring carpenter but then one day he decided to build a soap box.
Not confirmed through klickyleaks though so I have my doubts.
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