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General => Trains! => Topic started by: flatcat on December 08, 2011, 21:31:22

Title: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: flatcat on December 08, 2011, 21:31:22
Gordon, I guess this is too big? :-[ :-[ :-[

My plan was to continue and cover the entire area with the roofing from one side to the other making a semi enclosed terminus.

Whether you would get three tracks into one or what I don't know what you have planned so far.

I welcome anyone's comments/suggestions :)

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Damo :)
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofire on December 08, 2011, 22:51:02
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? 
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: flatcat on December 08, 2011, 22:52:13
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? 

What? :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh:

Damo :)
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofire on December 09, 2011, 09:32:20
What? :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh:

Damo :)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? 

As in, interesting.   :)
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: skypurr on December 09, 2011, 11:09:01
I haven't a clue as to whether it would fit, but I think it looks great.  :love:

Elaine (http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/mgqueen.gif)
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofire on December 09, 2011, 12:06:36
Yes, size is the possible problem. What is the width of the layout, Damo?
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: flatcat on December 09, 2011, 13:54:00
Yes, size is the possible problem. What is the width of the layout, Damo?

I don't know, I shall measure it for you when I get home :)

As it is a terminus, we could extend the platform round at the end, putting in buffers.
It would probably work best without a complete roof, as you will probably want to gain access to the stationary trains, Gordon. (Unless you are making a continual loop round, and will make the three tracks go back into one again)

Please don't feel you have to use this station if you already have plans, Gordon. It was just an idea that I have wanted to build for a while, and was a good excuse to get it all out! :lol:

Damo :)
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: PlaymoMan on December 09, 2011, 21:25:01
The size could be a problem, but, it looks great!
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofirth on December 15, 2011, 16:57:27
Hi Gordon & Damon

This looks impressive.

I just wanted to add that the area at the larger end of the display is 8ft by 8ft (as large as the area dedicated to Gordon’s railway last year) and I am happy for you to fill it as you see fit.  The railway will be the dominant element and I think it would be interesting to embrace the railway theme and “go with it” rather than worry about fitting in lots of other themes.

Gordon mentioned that the railway could run end to end (without turning loops) as this takes up less space as each end.  I am fine with this option.

I’ll leave you to work up some options.

Mark
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: flatcat on December 15, 2011, 17:12:38
Perhaps we could have a have the turn at the countryside end, so that the train goes through the fields etc, and then the track ends at the train station (or perhaps     oh, hang on,       if there isn't a turn the other end the train will be facing the wrong way )

Damo <*)
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofire on December 15, 2011, 17:44:46
Hi Gordon & Damon

  The railway will be the dominant element and I think it would be interesting to embrace the railway theme and “go with it” rather than worry about fitting in lots of other themes.

Gordon mentioned that the railway could run end to end (without turning loops) as this takes up less space as each end.  I am fine with this option.

I’ll leave you to work up some options.

Mark


I'd got the idea that the railway was a sort of backdrop or setting to the rest of the city life area, that's why I suggested the end-to-end approach whcih would have had a timetable for the train(s) to run to and a bit of shunting  to allow different types of trains and arrangements of rolling stock to be used.

In looking at a continuous running layout, I've been designing things with space left outside the railway track for other aspects of Playmobil, e.g. shops, police etc.
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: PlaymoMan on December 16, 2011, 01:33:34
These displays look very interesting, Once the exhibition is over, :picsplz:
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: zugpferdchen on December 16, 2011, 08:12:34
The size could be a problem, but, it looks great!
The 4052-loco could be another problem... it does not run on plastic tracks. (http://www.schweinchenforum.de/images/ferkelmodern1024/smilies/wink3.gif)
(but it looks nice)
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofire on December 16, 2011, 08:58:44
The 4052-loco could be another problem... it does not run on plastic tracks. (http://www.schweinchenforum.de/images/ferkelmodern1024/smilies/wink3.gif)
(but it looks nice)

We're going to use the RC trains only.
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofirth on December 16, 2011, 11:33:59
I'd got the idea that the railway was a sort of backdrop or setting to the rest of the city life area, that's why I suggested the end-to-end approach whcih would have had a timetable for the train(s) to run to and a bit of shunting  to allow different types of trains and arrangements of rolling stock to be used.

In looking at a continuous running layout, I've been designing things with space left outside the railway track for other aspects of Playmobil, e.g. shops, police etc.

Gordon
This is all up for discussion but your approach is sound.  My feeling is that the train railway can run along the back of the whole display - there will be 16ft of lower level in front of a narrow raised railway - where it will be a backdrop. 

The allocation of space at each end depends on the railway layout.  What I would like to do is give you the freedom to come up with a layout that you are excited about.  We can then work City Life theme sets into this.

Mark
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: flatcat on December 16, 2011, 13:31:35
The 4052-loco could be another problem... it does not run on plastic tracks. (http://www.schweinchenforum.de/images/ferkelmodern1024/smilies/wink3.gif)
(but it looks nice)

I wondered who was going to be the first person to say that! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I only used that and the carriages for Gordon's reference, as I don't have a 4019

Damo
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofire on December 17, 2011, 09:28:16
Gordon
This is all up for discussion but your approach is sound.  My feeling is that the train railway can run along the back of the whole display - there will be 16ft of lower level in front of a narrow raised railway - where it will be a backdrop. 

The allocation of space at each end depends on the railway layout.  What I would like to do is give you the freedom to come up with a layout that you are excited about.  We can then work City Life theme sets into this.

Mark

I'm looking at a loop at each end with sidings inside it and, maybe, at one end a siding outside it being repaired.  The internal sidings I'm planning to base on the layout I have in mind for my "permanent" layout which will be an end-to-end one.  However, they will have to be reduced in size as the planned Beachtown terminus is 13 feet long and Seaport is 15 feet! But even scaled down, there should be room for Damo's station.

Damo, can you give me approx measurements, please?
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: flatcat on December 17, 2011, 21:36:34
Damo, can you give me approx measurements, please?

Sorry I can't as it's all away now

Damo <*)
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofire on December 17, 2011, 22:04:09
Sorry I can't as it's all away now

Damo <*)

No problem, I can probably reproduce it from the photos.
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: flatcat on December 17, 2011, 22:05:53
No problem, I can probably reproduce it from the photos.

If you have all the pieces the you might as well do your own

Damo <*)
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofire on December 18, 2011, 08:21:09
If you have all the pieces the you might as well do your own

Damo <*)

I was thinking of the platform "footprints" so that I could get spacing and track connecting properly in advance.
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: flatcat on December 18, 2011, 09:41:02
I was thinking of the platform "footprints" so that I could get spacing and track connecting properly in advance.

Sorry if I sounded a little gruff in my last post - I was in a bit of a bad mood :-[ :-[ :-[

Have you not got these sets to re-create what I have built? I used exactly one big station, and two smaller ones

Damo <*)
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofire on December 19, 2011, 12:01:31
Sorry if I sounded a little gruff in my last post - I was in a bit of a bad mood :-[ :-[ :-[

Happens to us all! 

Have you not got these sets to re-create what I have built? I used exactly one big station, and two smaller ones

I've got two big stations and one small!

Damo <*)
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofire on December 19, 2011, 12:06:31
I've been doing some track planning for the 8 foot by 8 foot ends of the display.  So far, I've got five versions, plus there were quite a few I abandoned.  Attached is a possible left hand end which would allow Damo's platform idea to be included.  As you can see, there are some gaps in the track, but (hopefully) these can be dealt with using the little track extenders.  if they can't, then it's back to the drawing board!  (I hope to set the track up after Christmas.

The blue line marks out the edge of the 8' x 8' board and the 16' x 2' board;  the grid lines are 12 inches apart.
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofirth on December 19, 2011, 13:18:04
It looks good.  I take it that this is the "town end" rather than the village end.

Could you check my last plan - I took two foot off the left side (looking from the front) to allow space through to the fire exit, and space at the other end between the dispay and the wall to allow some access to the display.  www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=9844.45 (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=9844.45)

If I keep this reduction of 2ft I can take it from either end or the middle.

Mark
Title: Re: Experimenting with Train Station for Knaresbourough 2012
Post by: playmofire on December 19, 2011, 16:49:22
I hadn't picked upon that, Mark, but 8 feet at one end and 6 feet at the other would be OK, as would 2 feet less in the middle.  Again, I probably need to actually set the track up and check it out (and that means doing it outdoors so needs better weather).

Looking again at the layout, I notice that the town element will be beyond the stationand so paetly obscured.  I've done a quick rejigging of the track and attached an alternative layout which gives a bit more prominence to the town.

I intend to bring the centre section down at some point to a single track as this allows a two span bridge which will be a bit more dramatic.